Bullshit. Relegate Chelsea and Man City for breaking rules for a decade.
Ultimately it’s harsh as they complied but no one would have any complaints if they showed consistency with then dealing with the bigger clubs.
You’re telling me, they have to do their job??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Everton requested a consultant from the PL to oversee their transactions over the course of two years, who signed off on everything and later admitted not to have reviewed any of it in the first place. I don’t see how Everton could be accused of non compliance. This whole thing is fucking egregious.
But but but social media says we cheated and should be banned?
What’s the source for this, just keen to share with some mates,
Wait, seriously? Surely Everton can take them to court over this? You can’t sign off on everything, then go oh you broke our rules even though we said it’s fine, and we didn’t actually do our job!?
PL are fucking cunts. Cry about the super league, even though they’re the original superleague… Can’t be fucked to do shit about Refs or sportswashing, but Everton do something they have been told is actually okay, and absolutely fuck them.
They’ve used Everton to make an example because they’re scared to do it to City or Chelsea.
Can’t piss off the big 6 or they’ll start their own league.
No, they haven’t. Your conspiracy theories aren’t clever or helpful.
City’s is a far more complex case that will take longer to deal with, and any potential sanctions will be handed down by an independent commission, not the PL.
Everton broke the rules, in a much more simple case, and have been punished for it. It has nothing to do with City or Chelsea.
The rest of the big 6 would absolutely love City or Chelsea to get ruined. Probably the biggest reason for the likes of Liverpool and United being so supportive of the super league is to avoid getting left behind by clubs with bottomless pockets.
They are setting the precedent. They wouldn’t dock Everton 10 points for a single transaction if they weren’t planning on slamming City.
But at the same time they’ve put the point fine limit at 12 points, so it’s barely going to hurt City.
Yes they might not win the league one year, but they’d still have CL
But at the same time they’ve put the point fine limit at 12 points, so it’s barely going to hurt City.
wait, where and when?
City and Chelsea can leave, no one would follow.
How naive.
I am sure that our owners, and by extension United and Liverpool’s, would grab the opportunity to start a Super League. So if Chelsea and City are struck with punishment and they decide to break away, there could be a convincing argument for the others to leave too.
However, having said that, Liverpool, United and Arsenal are the biggest draws in the PL. If City and Chelsea leave, it would be a manageable loss. But the other three would definitely mean a bigger drop. So if any of the three feel aggrieved and band together to put the biggest punishment on City and Chelsea, the league will follow.
City are making enough money, they don’t need the Super League. I don’t think that UAE views the club as an investment, more like an opportunity to cleanse their image.
None of these clubs can leave. The last time they tried, fans rioted and shut down the matches. The prime minister and the opposition were united on wanting to prevent a super league.
That was a fuck around and fund out moment for the red tops. They pulled out in time before the government stepped in. Next time they’ll be made examples. They’ll be put under a government regulatory body and their power to self regulate will be gone.
This isn’t America where there is a constitution. Parliament can force liquidations like they did with Roman. The American owners will behave or they’ll be sent packing.
The prime minister and the opposition were united on wanting to prevent a super league.
Boris Johnson privately supported the Super League. He only came out and denounced it because the public (fans) came out completely against it. Johnson is a two faced cunt who does what is best for him. His “support” means nothing.
Johnson is gone. Rishi Sunak is in desperate need of a political victory. And his likely successor is a Labour PM. The Super League isn’t happening. Every PM will be jostling to be the “Man who saved English football”. It’s over.
Of you, to not understand that SL almost becoming a thing was partially because of your club and the leagues unwillingness to deal with you.
That’s not remotely true, City and Chelsea literally couldn’t leave the league, it’s legally impossible.
As for pissing off the big six? Half of them would just at the chance to see both teams grab a massive punishment.
but why would they punish Everton then? The backlash is even bigger now, everyone is after City’s and Chelsea’s heads. If they didn’t do anything to Everton either no one would bat an eye, aside from the occasional “google man city 115” jokes
seems like they had a lot more options last season
“Would you download a car?” Vibes
Is there a chance the Everton decision gets defanged on appeal and this all fizzles out?
More chance than City ever being punished.
I’ll believe this when City and Chelsea get the same treatment.
If I was Everton, I’d take the deduction on the chin and move on. They are not even bottom now, and they are very unlikely to go down as there are three teams who are far far worse.
It then puts them in the position of strength should anyone else be accused. I know I may seem biased as a United fan, but if Chelsea and City get away with it, the idea of rules around finances loses all credibility and makes the competition seem like a joke.
Issue with discussion is that city and chelsea didnt break the same rules as everton.
The addition of profitability and sustainabily rules with alot harder punishment makes evertons present rule breaking a bigger issue.
As for city and chelsea (Im a chelsea fan) I dont want to win outside the rules, but there has been questionable things around both arsenal and liverpool the last decade.
If we withheld 20m 2012, its not like that was 1. Uncomon, 2. Affected our ffp (by the rules applied 2012)
What have Liverpool and Arsenal done that’s questionable? I assume for Liverpool you’re talking about the scouts using their City log ins? Which they had to pay City £1m for so have been punished for it.
Wouldn’t just be the points deductions they would be accepting though. It’s in the rules that other clubs can sue them for 10s of millions each
Not to mention if Everton appeal, and they lose after a long, drawn-out process, they could risk getting a deduction next season instead. This is probably the best season to be deducted 10 points, the bottom 3 are all so bad.
That’s not how appeals work. The deduction is already applied. If it gets reduced we just get the points back. It doesn’t get moved to a different season
It’s effectively a massive fine even if they stay up, dropping 2 million per place.
They’ve got no choice because they know the independent regulator is on the way and they need to show that they’re complying with their own rules.
And that independent regulator is why I don’t buy this “City will get away with it” rhetoric. Don’t mistake silence for incompetence in this case.
And that independent regulator is why I don’t buy this “City will get away with it” rhetoric.
Money talks, no matter the time and age. What’s more, who even is the independent regulator? Don’t the PGMOL have something similar?
Most of the systems we’ve created are brilliant, economic, technological whatever. Its man that’s fallible.
What independent regulator? The one Neville keeps pushing forward? I’ve heard nothing concrete about that and in my opinion that would be years away before the FA and all prem teams agree to what the regulator has control over.
They need to do something about these Man city 115 charges against city more quickly. Like its gonna be half a decade before they’re all investigated and they’d have won the prem another 5 times in that period, and no way in a million years will a decade of league history be altered in punishment. They cheated so much they’re untouchable.
The more time goes on the more embarrassing a guilty verdict will be for the integrity of the league. Serie A having a couple of seasons effected by Calciopolli was bad enough, this would be magnitudes worse in terms of effected seasons. Easier for them to sweep it under the rug.
Some of the charges go back to 09-10 season so it’s actually been more than a decade for some of the offenses.
I’ve got 115 reasons to not believe this article.
What are they doing about it in other leagues?
As I suspect all clubs at some point have broken the FFF rules in all leagues , or is it a Saudi sponsored investigation into EPL teams
Unless Man City are stripped of titles then any punishment is not tough
A fine is just business and they will just invent a new sponsor
Relegation is a year out while they stomp the 2nd tier. It also punishes those teams because there will be one less promotion place available because Man City will obviously go straight back up
A point deduction does even less than a relegation.
Take away the awards they “earned” through cheating because that’s what it was about. On field success. Unless that is taken they have effectively gotten away with it with a mild to soft slap.
Stupid rules on and off the pitch, including this and VAR
RIP football