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YouTube blames ad blockers for slow load times, and it has nothing to do with your browser | The delay is intentional, but targeting users who continue using ad blockers, and not tied to any browse…::YouTube has clarified in a statement that users who use ad blockers will have a suboptimal experience regardless of their browser.
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Yeah, sure. That’s why it happens on Firefox even without an adblocker, and goes away when using a user agent switcher to claim you’re using Chrome instead of Firefox while using an adblocker. Because it’s toooooooootally about adblocking.
I tried this exact scenario and didn’t see any difference in load times. I’m using an ad blocker and it’s definitely sluggish, but switching to a Chrome user agent made no difference.
Yeah, people seem to be having very different experiences with it. It might genuinely be them rolling out different versions to different people to bug test it or something like that. Even if that’s the case I still think its probably not unintentional that it hurts Firefox more. They do that too much for me to believe it’s an accident.
It’s actually been confirmed that the 5-second wait happens regardless of browser. Even with Chrome.
How thoroughly was this tested? Because you can summarize a lot of these types of timing differences with one word.
Caching.
And from my experience people tend to overlook this when running casual tests like this.
So if I use Firefox I have a choice between a 5sec delay or a 5sec delay and ads. That seems like an easy choice.
I would assume the ad gives the creator some revenue while the delay doesn’t
the ad is poison to my soul tho so its still better to delay
That’s extreme lol, I barely notice ads, they hardly exist to me
Well, I have quite strong “anti spam filters” IRL. I often don’t even notice there are adverts around me or commercials in radio/television running somewhere in background. But youtube? Holy hell that’s another story. I just hate it when there are 5 unskippable 1+ minute ads in 10 minute video. It’s retarded and the only effect it has on me is I start to boycot the product/brand/service I see there.
I’d be OK with that if YouTube didn’t demonetize people all the time for utterly stupid reasons they refuse to explain and instantly give ad profits to anyone making a content claim whether or not the claim is valid.
Until they actually demonstrate competence in sharing profits with creators, they can fuck off.
Whatever. Don’t give for free and claim after you need to get paid. That’s no business model, that’s something that currently works, a fad. And morally questionable at that.
If they really had guts… go full paywall mode. No freemium with ads bullshit.
Don’t pretend like hook and bait business model is not being used here.
If YT did that, another company would just come and steal their market share with the same freemium system
At this point, I welcome the day that actually happens.
I call bullshit on this
Why?
The only alternative is stuff like Nebula and Floatplane but I’m not convinced people are willing to actually spend $ on creator media
Soon, Firefox will be the only browser left standing that has comprehensive ad blocker support.
I don’t believe Google when they say this wasn’t intentional.
Brave, Orion and Vivaldi are also still are standing.
The vast majority of code in Brave and Vivaldi is created and maintained by Google.
I don’t know enough about Safari to comment on Orion, but Orion appears to be a wrapper for Apple’s Safari web view. Apple quietly committed crimes against content blockers before Google managed to roll out MV3.
That is also true of Chromium browser is it not? Can you provide evidence of questionable or unethical privacy practices by Brave?
Here is what code Brave removes. 👍🏻
Where does most of Firefox’s financial support come from? 🤔
Yes it is also true of Chromium which is why it’s not a matter of finance or money. Brave is simply Chromium based, like Chrome, while Firefox is using its own engine.
The other day my wife asked me “what’s that pipe website you use to be able to watch YouTube videos” then I realized it was because she got blocked by YouTube haha
Android: newpipe, libretube, clipious, skytube, revanced
Why does nobody ever list ReVanced on these lists?
I’ve got Firefox and Ublock, and don’t see any delays, warnings, etc. It may have to do with the fact that I’m not signed in with an account.
This also appears to be in an A/B test or something similar. It isn’t happening for everyone (yet).
Yeah it looks like they’ve switched away from the 5-second penalty for having ad blockers to counting down the number of videos you’ll be shown, then after 3-2-1 it’s ‘adblockers violate youtube’s toc’
To be clear that is not new, that was a thing already before. Like from around July some people were already getting that.
Remember that just like with everything YouTube doesn’t apply changes to all users across the whole site simultaneously. They always do gradual rollout with randomized user impact. So as to not upset or raise too many alarms at the same time. It’s been their MO for about 10 years now.
I’m using DNS level ad blocking, anyone else not experiencing anything weird?
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