• ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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      The Alamo was for Texas independence that just so happened to be supported by the US and Texas just so happened to join them afterwards

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      Technically the United States bought Texas and the rest of the Western States, after a war with Mexico.

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          The technicality they’re using is that the land was purchased after the war as opposed to taken as a result of the war.

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            Yes, but that land would not have been “sold” if they hadn’t lost the war. The war was fought to conquer land, and the payment was for war “reparations”.

            The U.S. agreed to pay $15 million for the physical damage of the war and assumed $3.25 million of debt already owed by the Mexican government to U.S. citizens

            Wiki

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    Yes, that is correct. We either purchased the land or found ourselves the owners in mysterious ways after special military operations. /s

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      This is the woke mob trying to repaint history. The settlers arrived and invited the native Americans to dinner and the native Americans taught the settlers about “maize” (which means corn) and then the settlers asked they would move to the very cool reservations where they could have the casinos and the native Americans were like “yeah bruh.”

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        It is not new. Many countries do not teach the full extent of their dangerous past(cough Britain cough). A very specific example I remember is when a group of white folks overthrew the local government(a party called Fusionists) in the town of Wilmington, North Carolina. For a very long time, information about it was kept under wraps and to this day, people on the wrong side of history have had places named after them in their honor.

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    don’t write him off as stupid. this isn’t a person trying to be correct and failing. this is a person trying very hard to establish a world in which the truth is irrelevant, and instead from moment to moment the truth is whatever they need it to be in order to justify their positions and actions.

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      I’d love to see Puerto Rico to become a state, just because I think it’d be cool, but I wouldn’t blame them one bit for looking at the asshats on the mainland and wanting to get away. Either way, their current status shouldn’t continue.

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    I think a successful completion of a deep national and international history course together hard exams should become a prerequisite for any political office in the US.

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        It bought them all, but Mexico was really poor so they got it cheaper. The US was willing to pay $50 million.

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          No. It did not.

          The US did offer to buy the territories, Mexico said no, then the US invaded and took them. During the peace process after the war, the US then paid less than half of the initial offer for the territories that it was never going to give back.

          Later, the US bought a sliver of land on the border for a slightly inflated price, but that was its own thing.

          But you can’t really call an armed invasion, and then a pittance paid out in damages, to be “Buying them all”.

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            The United States could have just taken all of Mexico, but it didn’t. It paid for the land. The population of the western states was made up of Americans anyhow, less than a thousand Mexican citizens lived in those areas at the time.

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              Someone: puts a gun to your head and says “I’ll give you $4 for your car”.

              You: “This is a free and fair trade.”

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                That wasn’t the case, the Mexican government was run as an oligarchy. The United States threat was to threaten to turn over their lands to the public.

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              The US took most of the land from Mexico that was worth taking. There’s little viable agricultural land south of Texas. Also, it put a lot of land in between Mexico and New Orleans, which is an incredibly important international port. With that secured, no foreign army would be able to threaten that port without major logistics challenges, much less fighting through the US Army and every local citizen with a gun.

              The US grabbed what it wanted and let Mexico keep the scraps.

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                That is looking at it from today, not from how it was viewed then. The main reason Mexico was fine with selling was the massive desert that separated the two areas and the extremely violent native population that inhabited the region. That reason didn’t become peaceful until the 1920s.

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      The US bought the Philippines from Spain for $14 million. Then fought a war with the Filipinos.

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    We didn’t get California and Texas by war, we got that by Devine right. Manifest Destiny.