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      This was the original cyberpunk-transhumanist message. Not “cybernetics will destroy your soul” but “corporations own your body, or worse parts of your body”

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      Wow that made me so fucking uncomfortable, from the serious adverse affects requiring surgical intervention, the company trying to shout down negativity and just leaving these poor people to continue suffering….

      It’s all so horrid, I can’t imagine the stress and impact

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        No, they’re far too busy using taxpayer money to bail out banks and businesses that are “too big to fail”.

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      Well that’s fucking bleak, at least I got a good chuckle out of this

      NPM’s novel implant for drug delivery.

      So that’s how they keep JavaScript devs hooked!

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      3 years later they’ll end the support

      I don’t think that’s a fair characterization - it sounds like they ran out of money and the company that bought all their assets didn’t maintain support. In that company’s defense, it’s really hard to maintain support for something when you’ve bought the IP but you don’t have any of the institutional knowledge.

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        Maybe it’s a hot take but if you are giving life-altering treatments, and your company goes under, you should open-source everything

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          Would that even be legal? The company has obligations to its creditors and shareholders; simply giving away potentially valuable intellectual property right before going under seems to violate those obligations. And it’s the sort of violation for which someone might be personally held liable.

          I’m not claiming that a company can never open-source anything, but rather than they have to have a plausible business case for doing so. And I don’t see a plausible business (as opposed to humanitarian) case here… But I’m not a corporate lawyer, just someone interested in this sort of thing.

          Edit: there’s also the FDA to consider. If you make medical devices and you want to release the source code, you probably need to demonstrate that it’s safe for users to reprogram their devices (and it’s not safe).

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    Fox Viewers: ‘Don’t get vaccinated because there are brain controlling microchips hidden in the jab.’ Also Fox Viewers: ‘I can’t wait to get one of Elon’s brain chips to own the libs!’

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    You mean the FDA approved of lobotomizing a select few of desperate people to satiate the narcissistic impulses of its founder. Anyone else wanna take a ride in this plastic submarine???

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      Uh, it’s a “submersible” and it’s not plastic, it’s throwaway expired carbon fiber from Boeing…

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    imagine physically embedding the fucking musk into your brain, VOLUNTARILY. i can’t imagine anything worse in the world

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      People are still driving Teslas right now. Pretty much the same in my book. You’re trusting your life to a proven moron.

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        Elongated Muskrat has very little to do with the inner works of the company now. Even in the heights of his involvement, by his own account, his input was tangential at best, like “we make expensive car now, use this money to make cheaper car” and “we call it x because x is the best name ever”

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          Don’t forget “The Tesla Model series will spell out SEXY” and “Oh, Ford already claimed Model E? Model 3 it is, 1337!”

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          The ongoing litigation against the company begs to differ. Also didn’t Musk step down as CEO of Twitter a while back? It seems his tangential bullshit has quite an impact. I’ll be honest I think the people actually working at Tesla do their best to try to moderate his unadulterated fuck ups. But they’re not safe from it and neither is anyone else who does business with them.

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        Slightly off topic but I live in the DMV area and whenever I notice someone with the specific combination of both driving like someone who is not at all paying attention to what’s going on around them and having 0 respect for other people on the road, 90% of the time it’s a fucking Tesla.

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      Well the disabled people getting this implant probably don’t care about musk, it’s legitimately a cool technology and good competition for the medical space.

      Musk is a cuck still, and I’m sure we’ll have to wait a couple generations before we get the dystopian stuff in Neurallink

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        I still don’t get how it’s at all safe or practical to have what amounts to a smart watch embedded into your brain.

        The surgery they want to do literally involves removing a piece of your skull. Falling and hitting your head without a piece of your skull removed is bad enough, this is going to seriously compromise the strength of people skulls. Which is especially bad when you consider it’s meant to solve problems like paralysis. I have a feeling that people who are just learning to walk again may be at a high risk of falling. Now they’re at a high risk of falling and cracking their skull open like an egg.

        It’s also charged with a wireless charger, which would need to placed on the device every night when you sleep. How many people remain completely still the entire night and don’t move their heads at all?

        This is a cool and valuable first step for brain augmentations that can probably help thousands of patients, but the implementation has so many glaring problems that it makes me wonder how well the actual product even functions.

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          How many people remain completely still the entire night and don’t move their heads at all?

          Anybody with sleep apnea who has a CPAP has solved a harder version of this problem. It sucks and takes a while to get used to but it’s way better than waking up with a headache every day.

          I assume that if the implant is helpful the overnight charging will be readily accepted by users.

          (I’ve got a peripheral nerve implant myself so I am quite familiar with what lengths people will go to to relieve pain)

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          You have to drill or cut into the skull for plenty of medical procedures. I don’t think getting a dime sized piece of skull removed at the crown of your head means your head explodes when you hit it on something.

          As for the charging thing, there are plenty of solutions. Wear some kind of headband for one.

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      i can’t imagine anything worse in the world

      I can… there are literally people who are willing to participate in Musk’s Mars colonization fantasies. They stand about as much chance of success (or survival) as those people who got imploded in that Titanic sub - except their deaths won’t be as quick and merciful.

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        Imagine living on Mars in a tiny hut that you can never leave while you slowly starve to death all while Musk is telling everyone on Earth how cool an successful his new colony is. New volunteers continue to arrive in waves while promises go unfulfilled and an endless line of corporate stooges tells you that you are lying about the conditions.

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          At least the new arrivals will have a fresh supply of meat - Mars is pretty cold, after all.

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      Just wait until it’s not technically mandatory, but you can’t do your taxes, find a job or participate in society without beaming ads straight to your brain.

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        Or even to compete in the labor force, the productivity gains of mainlining the internet will be insane and ppl without it won’t get hired. Ray Kurzweil talks about it a bit in his book “The Singularity is Near,” his take is optimistic though.

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    Musk is doing more to make people realize how garbage capitalism is than Marx ever could.

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    LastWeekTonight made an interesting episode about medical devices and how they are cleared or approved. The OP’s post is about approval for human trials, but I think Neuralink getting approved for the market by FDA and then ruining many lives anyway is a real possibility.

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    On one hand I’m excited for what the tech can do for medical purposes and future applications… On the other hand I’m terrified on what governments and corporations have in mind for it, cause I guarantee it will not be good

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        I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as brain, is in fact, GNU/brain, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus brain. Brain is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many humans with the Neurolink chip run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “brain”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really are brains, and these people are using them, but it is just a part of the system they use. Brain is the kernel: the organ in the system that allocates the body’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Brain is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with brain added, or GNU/brain. All the so-called “brain” distributions are really distributions of GNU/brain.

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    I want to thank Facebook for making it blatantly obvious to us that we should never get any brain implants. They’ll definitely use them to read your thoughts and push ads straight into your consciousness. Oh, and you’ll probably have to pay a subscription.

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          Nothing. He’s full of shit. The thing doesn’t fucking work. He’s selling snake oil to secure more investment before fucking off and selling more false hope to the gullible.

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        Only in the future. They would have needed to know to look before again in the future past or whatever yeah

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          That seems like a failure of their own making, I’m not doing their job for them, I don’t even want to do mine.

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      It’s precrime; if they want to know my location instead of they already having it, it means they’ve absolutely failed at their job.

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    Musk can go first. Maybe it’ll help him save Twitter. Or he goes into the nuthouse. Either way, it would be a win.

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    I’m not putting anything in me that’s not foss. I worry for the tech illiterate though when they eventually adopt this idea.

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      I agree, I love the idea of a brain chip, but not if someone can change licensing terms on something that’s INSTALLED in me.

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      Are you going to be that picky when they’re fitting you with a pacemaker?

      I agree if it’s just something for fun though, although personally I’d err on the side of not putting anything in me at all thanks very much. I’m quite happy with my tech on the outside where it belongs.

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      Dude, look at the current support for audio drivers. Do you really want to deal with that for your ears?

      Just kidding I don’t know anything about audio drivers 😂

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        I remember having to figure out why audio was not working on a new installation. That was once, probably ~5 years ago and was fixed quickly once I found a solution online.

        I’d vastly prefer my ears to stop working intermittently due to a FOSS driver issue over a corporate overlord installing bloat, spyware, demanding regular payment for the privilege of them not deleting my driver, just to drop support for them some years later anyway.

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          If the audio doesn’t work, I want to be sure it is because of me, not some tech-suit trying to make me pay more for their rubbish services

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        What’s wrong? It’s time to repair your brain’s Pulseaudio configuration after an update!

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    Despite Elon being insane, the idea of brain-computer interfaces could be really great. I’m thinking of people with disabilities or debilitating injuries. This could enable prosthetics with full dexterity that you can control. It could be life changing for some people.

    I don’t know if that is the first thing Elon is aiming for, but any breakthroughs in the technology that could lead to it becoming a legitimate option to improve people’s lives, I think would be a good thing.

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      I imagine everyone in the space except elon is thinking about the positive benefits and Elon is thinking about a giant spinning dollar sign while Baby Elephant Walk plays on repeat.

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      This could enable prosthetics with full dexterity that you can control. It could be life changing for some people.

      This has already enabled corporations to force people to go under surgery to remove senses or limbs that had already been restored. With this technology, your body autonomy is now live service.