• steeznson@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I personally don’t like the direction Naughty Dog have taken for the past decade or so because their games have become less “game-y” (for lack of a better term). Yes the shooting/traversal is mechanically competent and the story is well directed, but I think that they are hewing much more closely to a long-form television show format. The fact that Last of Us was able to be adapted into a tv show so seamlessly also suggests this is the case.

    The colourful worlds of Crash Bandicoot and Jak & Daxter were Rare-esque and much more to my personal taste. This isn’t because they are aimed at younger audiences per se; games can aim at adult demographics without aping another medium. Some personal favourites would be series like Souls, Resident Evil and God of War.

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      4 months ago

      I have a Jak and Dexter sized hole in my heart. Love those games. Been playing them on the Steam Deck a bit.

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    4 months ago

    Does that mean we don’t need to pander to adult themes and we can have silly games like Jak and Daxter now?

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      4 months ago

      Do you mean like ratchet and clank? Sackboy? Spiderman? Astrobot?

      Are we just mad that games that “pander” to “adult themes” exist at all?

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        4 months ago

        These damn film directors, too! Every movie should be PG because if everyone can’t enjoy it, nobody should!!

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          4 months ago

          No, you see everyone not making something I like is taking stuff away from me personally and that’s what matters above all

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            4 months ago

            I hate when others express themselves artistically without consulting with me, their only audience, first

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        4 months ago

        Except Naughty dog when asked specially said they weren’t doing to make “childrens” games anymore like it’s something beneath them. I quite liked/like those games.

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            4 months ago

            The story is what a middle schooler thinks constitutes “deep writing”, and the gameplay felt like a tacked on mess made by someone who saw a video game on the internet once without a single clue of what makes them good

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              4 months ago

              Seeing you specifically talk about how bad the game is finally pushed me towards being a fan of it. Now I can’t wait to play it. Thanks!

            • Good Girl [she/they]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              What is ‘deep writing’ to you? It’s a character driven narrative focused on two characters’ relationship to each other and their survivors guilt. It doesn’t have to be ‘deep’ to be compelling. It might not be ‘the greatest story ever told in a video game’ as it’s been lauded, but it’s not bad by any means.

              Gameplay is w/e I’ll give you that one.

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        4 months ago

        They’re both masterpieces. Unfortunately a bunch of whiny children dislike the second one for whiny childish reasons. Its only real issue is pacing.

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          4 months ago

          There are some real complaints to be had. I think not liking the more realistic/explicit presentation of violence is fair. I think the visceral behaviour of games does make it a different experience to the same violence you’d see in a movie.

          I also think disliking Neil Druckmann as a person is valid, he has some quotes that seem snobby.

          Not enjoying cinematics games in general could also be an avenue for complaints but I think none of these are explicit complaints about tLoU2

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            4 months ago

            I mean personal preference is one thing, whilst issues are another. It doesn’t aim to not be violent or not use plenty of cutscenes.

            Yeah, Druckmann is a visionary creator, they all sound like that, just gotta put up with it really.

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              Not all directors come across that way but signalling them as a visionary suggests some slight bias.

              I also don’t really understand what your trying to say above, isolating “preference” and “issues” doesn’t really make sense since issues form from preference and art is not objective.