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Said none of those companies.
Listen, all those companies suck, but you don’t have to put words in their mouths, everyone seems extremely positive about Baldur’s Gate, and I would say almost all developer aspire to reach the same breadth and depth as Baldur’s Gate 3 with as much polish as they put on it. There’s a long list of reasons why they can’t or don’t (often publishers… or scope creep… but mostly publishers).
Unless there’s a massive thread of shit talking from other developers that I’m missing, but I’m pretty sure that doesn’t exist.
I think this is in response to the IGN story about developers being afraid of the new standard BG3 is setting.
The companies haven’t officially said it, but various people working for these companies have whined about it on their personal social media.
Agreed. What’s especially dumb is that only one of these studios (BioWare) is even in the business of making the same genre of game.
BioWare hasn’t been in that business for quite some time now
All these companies have to do is remember the olden days and make complete games like they used to.
Heck, Baldur’s Gate 3 was inspired by games like Baldur’s Gate 2 and Neverwinter Nights made by Bioware.
These companies set the standard then they forgot them.
They did not forgot the old ways. It was not profitable for the investors.
Remnant 2 in the background: Am I a Joke to you?
So, so besides the story, what’s the difference between this and the Divinity games? It appears that it’s pretty much the exact same engine, doing the exact same thing, using the exact same functionality. The Divinity games were okay, but it’s not like they raised the bar or did anything ground breaking…how is this any different?
That said, have we just not had a good turn-based strategy game in so long that people are like, holy fuck this is so new and refreshing!
Engine is similar but BG3’s is more enhanced. Story is a complete other level. It delivers on the level of what Todd Howard promises and starts approaching what Peter Molineux used to promise.
A decent comparison is the 5e SRD based game Solasta: Crown of the Magister that uses the same 5e ruleset as BG3, and it does some things better, but is an absolutely on-rails experience. Even one instance where you have to get caught stealing to proceed in the main quest.
Where BG3 shines is looking truly open.
E.G. In the primary map’s “main” conflict, you have three main factions, A group that runs a refuge,
B some refugees and C some goblins.
You can side with A, A+B, B, A+C, B then C, A then C, or even C then B+A. All of those outcomes will have rollon effects down the line. And not changes like Mass Effect 1’s Rachni Queen to Mass Effect 3’s “oh you killed that one, well someone else found a queen”, but like: this PC’s personal quest can’t be completed on this run. Or a vendor that carries multiple unique items has a quest you can’t complete because your loot goblin friend opened a chest the game told her multiple times to not open.to me the biggest difference is that in divinity it still felt like i could do literally everything, and like I was just checking off steps in a task list until i made it to the end.
bg3 is the first game where i actually feel more like I’m playing an actual ttrpg that organically breaths and moves with my actions and let’s me do it all in literally any way i can imagine. it’s the first time I don’t think i could ever play through to every eventuality.
That’s almost exactly the difference. Mechanically, they are very similar with some expanded interactions and a bit more player agency. It feels more like playing d&d than ever before.
The SCOPE of the story is on an entirely different level. I’ve only played the first 10 hours, but I’ve done so almost 4 times, and each run through has felt >70% unique. Choices have weight, options are meaningful and plentiful, character interactions are some of the closest I’ve felt to interacting with other players in a turn based RPG.
Is it going to shock the world like Elden Ring and Breath of the Wild? No, probably not. It does show what can be accomplished by a great team of driven writers and programmers who actually care.
Definitely worth a try if you can pay the entry fee.
The last good turn-based game I played was… oh wait, D:OS2. Huh.
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I know what this post is referencing, but I don’t think that was really the message that they were trying to convey.
Baldurs Gate 3 is an incredibly good game, but it will be difficult for most average studios to emulate their success.
They had a very long developmental cycle of 6+ years, very successful early access, and a team of 400+ experienced developers who know this genre better than anyone.
I would absolutely love to see another studio attempt something this ambitious, but it’s going to be really hard to top this game for the foreseeable future.
Why are you people so obsessed with these developers?
