• mtchristo@lemm.ee
    2·
    1 year ago

    The web is beyond bloated.

    The heavy reliance on JavaScript has suck the joy out of browsing the web for me

    • AnonymousLlama@kbin.social
      2·
      1 year ago

      I’d say the over exploitation of JavaScript to leverage tracking, interaction and marketing has helped create the poor experiences we now have on web. The underlying technology when used for creating interactive and helpful UIs is very beneficial

      • grue@lemmy.ml
        0·
        1 year ago

        Web pages are supposed to be hypertext documents, not “interactive… UIs!”

          • grue@lemmy.ml
            01·
            1 year ago

            You’re “downloading an app” anyway, even if it’s JavaScript running in a browser. How do you think the client-side code gets to the client‽

            But yes, I think we need a new version of something like Java Web Start, except with the ability to steam parts of itself as-needed instead of having to download the entire .jar before being able to run. If you’re going to have an app, have an app that has proper libraries for the UI etc. instead of hacking everything on top of a whole bunch of DOM cruft!

            I guess WebAssembly is a step in the right direction, but it’s still too tied to the document viewer known as a “web browser,” for no good reason.

    • swordsmanluke@programming.dev
      1·
      1 year ago

      May I introduce you to the Gemini project?

      It’s a new(ish) protocol for sharing interlinked text documents. It’s intended to sit between Gopher and HTML in terms of complexity and is deliberately, aggressively simple (some might even say crippled) with the intention that it will be nearly impossible to extend the protocol for surveillance capitalism. It’s not trying to replace ye olde WWW, but to provide a human-focused place for text-first, 90’s-style sites to live. …just without the blink tags.

  • Murdo Maclachlan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    Image Transcription: Meme

    STOP USING CSS

    * HTML WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN CLASSES
    * YEARS OF MARKUP yet NO REAL-WORLD USE FOUND for styling beyond \ * Wanted to center content for a laugh? We had a tool for that: It was called ""
    * “Yes please align that content exactly 32.89% left. Please align 59.0px down”
        - Statements dreams up by the utterly deranged

    LOOK at what FRONT-END Devs  have been demanding your Respect for all this time.
    (This is REAL CSS. done by REAL Devs)

    [Three screenshots of CSS code, each one marked with a number of red question marks. The first screenshot has five question marks and reads as follows:]

    h1 {
        font-size: .75em;
        position: absolute;
        bottom: 20px;
        width: 94%;
        left: 2%;
}

    [The second screenshot has eight question marks and reads as follows:]

    *{
    font-size: 30px;

}
    q::before {
  content: "«";
  color: blue;
]

q::after {
  content: "»";
  color: red;
}

    [The third screenshot has sixteen question marks and reads as follows:]

    #header ul a:focus, #header ul a:active,
#header ul a:hover {
    background-color: #5A5A5A;
    outline-color: -moz-use-text-color:
    outline-style: none;
    outline-width: medium;
}

    [The screenshots end.]

    “Hello center that div please”

    They have played us for absolute fools

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  • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org
    11·
    1 year ago

    The web killed the Internet.

    JavaScript killed the web.

    CSS defiled its corpse.

    Honestly and without any trace of irony, I wish CSS would die and be replaced by maybe half a dozen new HTML tags to support a few specific responsive design patterns.

    CSS runs counter to the concept of HTML. Web design used to be inherently user-centric. The designer was not supposed to have much of a say in how it looked on a client’s system, because that was up to the client. The designer only provided high-level hints like “this is a paragraph” or “this is emphasized”. The browser decided how a paragraph should be displayed, which fonts to use, etc.

    Over time, visual designers clawed more and more control from the user, much to the detriment of the entire rest of the world.

    99% of web sites would be better if they conformed to basic semantic markup. Low-level design parameters should not exist on the web.

    It’s a straight line from CSS to Google’s new trusted web bullshit. It’s all about wresting control away from the user and giving it to the site designer. Fuck you, site designer. My eyeballs do not belong to you.

    • nintendiator@feddit.cl
      1·
      1 year ago

      lol. lmao. What am I even reading?

      The CSS is literally openly served along with the website. One line change in the HTML (in allows you to make your own CSS for a site. There’s a world of difference between that and “Google’s new trusted web bullshit”. And you know who sits much closer to Google than HTML and CSS?

      Javascript. That’s who.