Former President Trump’s decision to skip the first Republican presidential primary debate is fueling Republican angst that his rivals will have little opportunity to catch up to him in the polls.

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    “We let this monster of our own creation rage out of control for 8 years, and he’s still out of control!”

    Edit: Also, the Party that tried to enable him to short circuit the democratic process and attempt a violent coup is suddenly upset… that he’s not following the democratic process. :(

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    I think this is the real issue here, jfc.

    A Des Moines Register/NBC News/Mediacom poll of likely Republican caucus voters released Monday found that Trump’s lead over DeSantis has grown by 5 points since his indictment in Georgia last week on 13 criminal charges related to trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election in the state.

    His approval went UP after the indictment. This is absolutely insane and only shows how hopeless US politics has become. How do you roll that division back? Can you even roll it back if everybody wanted to? This cat is out of the bag and I don’t see it going back in there any time soon.

    The only hope I’ve left is the division of the GOP itself. Let the extremists go somewhere else politically and it’ll hopefully lead to a more, what is the word again, fact based approach of politics when the extremists can be ignored because you don’t have to appease them.

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      Mainstream “normal” republicans won’t actually not vote republican. They know that their only hope of maintaining some power is to continue to work with the batshit crazy regressives.

      They got in bed with these people via the Southern Strategy, and they’ve only recently started making noises like they’re uncomfortable. Once they’re in the booth, though, they will still vote straight ticket.

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        I expect the Mitt Romney/Chris Christie wing to do a hostile take over of the Libertarian Party and abandon the GOP lable to the Trump wing.

        It would be easier to take over a party that’s already on all state ballots then create a new one from the ground up.

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      Honestly it’s just as easy as the media deciding they want us all to be friends again.

      That’s legit all it takes.

      If left and right wing media outlets would just start an initiative to bring the country together, everyone would fall in line. People only think what they are told to think.

      The issue is that these corporations want money, and happiness doesn’t make money.

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    He’s not part of the party and never was. They let him come in and take over. It’s time for them to really up their language and actions against Trump rather than coddling him and his followers out of fear.

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      That won’t happen until long after he’s dead. They’ll prop him up as their golden calf until he can’t speak anymore. Then like a light switch they’ll have never supported him in the slightest and he was the evil man that took control of the GOP and made them look bad for 20 years.

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          He has access to better healthcare than 99% of the rest of us. Despite his best efforts I don’t think we’ll be rid of him anytime soon.

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            I think he’s going to flee America and do some sort of radio / online media message as a deposed dictator president . And continue to grift until he can’t.

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            Unless he has an “attack of conscience” and “commits suicide”. Inside a guarded cell. Where he’s being watched 24/7.

            You know, the usual way.

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              That won’t happen as he may turn out to be more dangerous dead than alive.

              You can stick him in prison and then people can forget about him but if he dies he becomes a martyr.

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                Oh, I completely agree he will be far more dangerous dead than alive. Particularly because they won’t struggle to control him anymore. I wasn’t suggesting it should go that way… More suggesting that I can easily see it happening. On purpose. Specifically so that they can control the narrative.

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        It might be closer to when he’s no longer a viable candidate. They turned on Bush practically before he was out of office

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          Convicted Sex Offender Loser Trump will lose to Biden again, and then exhaust his criminal appeals, then go to jail for the rest of his life. The every GOP voter will suddenly claim they never really supported Convicted Sex Offender Loser Trump.

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      Trump is 100% the Republican party of today. Maybe you could say he was an outsider in 2015 having little political experience but he is now the face of the party. He is leading in Iowa by 23 points and in national polls by an average of 37 points. Republicans courted the MAGA base for a long time and now that they have control of the party. The Republican party can no more excise Trump and his base than one could cut out their own heart and remain whole.

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      They didn’t let him come in and take over. There were 12 people running for the Republican primary in 2016, and that split the vote so much that Trump was able to get a plurality in most states. If it had been two or three candidates Trump may not have been able to win.

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    This is another example of how leniency for those who would make themselves king eventually leads to dictatorship. See you in another 5 years for the civil war.

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    Institutionalized racism, misogyny, homophobia, and white Christian separatism as party platform. No matter how “conservative” Republicans claimed to be, The Southern Strategy was the core value and singular driving force for the past 60 years. MAGA isn’t a symptom, it’s result

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    If the GOP actually does something, the only thing they can would be to kick him out of the GOP. However, if they do that, Trump will most likely form his own political party, and start attracting senators, governors, and house members to switch to his new party to give it legitimately.

    I have been saying and I will keep on saying this, Trump is the modern day Hitler.

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    The only way to discourage this behavior is to help the other candidates make their pitch, which has to be why they are a better choice than Trump.

    This should be how it works, the entire reason for the debate is that the attendees benefit from the attention.