• Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    Look, fuck Alex Jones, but the title of the Twitter Space was “Will the Deep State Assassinate Biden If He Refuses To Leave?”

    Which is some crazy conspiratorial nonsense, but it is pretty far from a call to assassinate Biden. It does technically have the words “assassinate Biden” in it, so the headline is correct on a literal level, but this is some serious click bait…

    You could just as easily say “Rawstory posts article with ‘Assassinate Biden’ in the title”, and be just as correct.

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      If you’re always giving people who don’t play fair, the benefits of the doubt, you’re going to end up with fascism.

      Never help vipers survive, they’ll only end up stinging you.

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        If I don’t give people the benefit of a doubt, then I am the one playing unfairly.

        Alex Jones may be a liar, but I’m not.

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    Just arrest his ass. Clearly conspiracy as he’s encouraging others to attempt it.

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      Did he? The full title of the stream was, “Will the Deep State Assassinate Biden If He Refuses To Leave?” Seems like it was just clickbait because the article says nothing about Alex encouraging it.

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        Yeah. It doesn’t really get any less ambiguous without adding “I really mean it in a legally actionable way!” or some such nonsense.

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          I ask because the article says nothing about him encouraging others to do it. I was hoping someone would link or explain more.

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    I guess Biden should just have him assassinated since he is clearly a threat to his ability to perform his presidential duties. Surely this is what the SCOTUS was referring to when they made that ruling.

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      We joke about this stuff. But when you stack up how Palestinian protesters on college campuses or BLM organizers in Ferguson and Baltimore or Quakers protesting the Iraq War were treated relative to a real live active guy with deep ties to domestic terrorist groups, its mind-boggling how little actually happens to the shock jock crowd.

      Its not like Presidents are shy about straight up assassinating political dissidents, whether they are American Islamists and their families living abroad or Civil Rights leaders in Chicago and Philly. So how do these far-right types get to run nationally syndicated Radio Rwanda uninterrupted for decades across multiple administrations with no more than a polite knock at the door?

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    It’s Illegal to say something like, “I want to kill the president.” Like crazy illegal. It’s ok that I just said it because I was just telling you it’s illegal.

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          Shame everyone got on a hardcore vindictive streak against every perceived ‘microagression’ a decade or so ago.

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            There’s thousands upon thousands of famous people. Why waste your time following or supporting someone that you feel is not a good person? Turns out a lot of people feel that same way, hence someone being “cancelled”. No one went on a “hardcore vindictive streak” to get these people cancelled.

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              Oh please. People were swinging that stick around blindly. Sure there were some legitimately bad actors hurt, but the damage it did to society as a whole has been incalculable, as every random idiot with a grudge felt empowered to wield it as a weapon against everyone around them.

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                This guy is a bad example. Can we have this debate when it’s someone worth the effort? This guy is a huge asshole and I’m willing to ‘no contest’ his cancelling.

                Fight the next one. I beg you.

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                  I’m responding to the person saying they miss when people had fun on TV. That doesn’t happen anymore because too many vindictive assholes feel empowered to ruin people’s lives without a second thought in our current culture.

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                  How about the random people harassed/shamed for the great sin of… spreading their legs on the bus? People were absolutely psychotic in their zeal to attack anyone they could for any reason they could conceive.

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      I’m of the opinion that we defined it several thousand years ago, in some form at least.

      https://howtobeastoic.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/one-crucial-word/

      Belangia helpfully adds: “A-gnoia means literally ‘not-knowing’; a-mathia means literally ‘not-learning.’ In addition to the type of amathia that is an inability to learn, there is another form that is an unwillingness to learn. … Robert Musii in an essay called On Stupidity, distinguished between two forms of stupidity, one he called ‘an honorable kind’ due to a lack of natural ability and another, much more sinister kind, that he called ‘intelligent stupidity.'”

      Belangia also quotes Glenn Hughes, from an essay entitled “Voegelin’s Use of Musil’s Concept of Intelligent Stupidity in Hitler and the Germans,” providing a further elucidation of the concept of amathia (italics in the original):

      “The higher, pretentious form of stupidity stands only too often in crass opposition to [its] honorable form. It is not so much lack of intelligence as failure of intelligence, for the reason that it presumes to accomplishments to which it has no right … The stupidity this addresses is no mental illness, yet it is most lethal; a dangerous disease of the mind that endangers life itself. … [S]ince the ‘higher stupidity’ consists not in an inability to understand but in a refusal to understand, any healing or reversal of it will not occur through rational argumentation, through a greater accumulation of data and knowledge, or through experiencing new and different feelings … We may say that the reversal of a spiritual sickness must entail a spiritual cure.”

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        Willful ignorance is the greatest sin. I’ve been saying that for a while now, not that I believe in sin.

        COVID was a real eye opener for me. Seeing how far people would go to remain ignorant.

        Stupid can’t be helped and there is nothing wrong with it. Ignorance is different and not necessarily bad, if you see that you’re ignorant about something, you can choose to educate yourself.

        However, willful ignorance is a different thing. I believe that most of society’s ills are rooted in willful ignorance and its exploitation by the evil.