Ordinary Gazans are bearing the brunt of the 8-month Israeli military onslaught on the territory and many blame the Palestinian armed faction for starting the war.
  • InfiniteGlitch@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    5 months ago

    I’d rather argue they are willing to do so - in the hope for permanent ceasefire and peace. Anything to stop the bombing, dying, starvation and everything else.

    • Keeponstalin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      5 months ago

      Israel has no intent to stop the bombing and starvation. That’s why they have rejected any permanent ceasefire in exchange for hostages and insisted on only temporary ceasefires

      • guacupado@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        5 months ago

        Let’s be honest though: if Israel stopped bombing immediately, do you think Hamas would stop randomly bombing and mortaring Israel? Sure, Israel is fucked up, but there’s a certain point where Palestine needs to realize they’ll never have peace with Hamas always looking to fight someone. It’s like complaining about the crime in your neighbor but you refuse to tell the cops where the local drug house is even with all the anonymity that technology offers.

  • Keeponstalin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Both Hamas and Fatah are corrupt. However, it is impossible to have a free and fair democratic election under an Apartheid State. The Apartheid must end first before it is possible for Palestinians to have a free and fair election.

    Hamas does torture and kill political rivals, and has been exposed for corruption. Fatah is also corrupt, seen as working at the behest of Israel at the expense of Palestinians in East Jerusalem and the West Bank.

    Both have been funded by Israel as part of a Divide and Conquer tactic. Israel also has a long history of assassinating more moderate and leftist political Palestinian rivals.

    Hamas Victory Driven By Desire To End Corruption WPO

    Hamas Political Violence in Gaza - HRW 2009

    Gaza: Palestinians tortured, summarily killed by Hamas forces during 2014 conflict - Amnesty

    Gaza: Journalist facing prison term for exposing corruption in Hamas-controlled ministry - Amnesty

    Palestinians furious and fed up with corruption of Abbas’s ‘mafia’ PA - MEE

    “Divide and Rule”: How Israel Helped Start Hamas to Weaken Palestinian Hopes for Statehood - DemocracyNow

    Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations – review - The Guardian

      • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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        5 months ago

        israel gets some of the blame for funding hamas and building them up when they needed them to take out the plo

        hamas gets some of the blame for using terrorism as a weapon and attacking israeli citizens while neglecting gazans

        • DolphinMath@slrpnk.netEnglish
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          5 months ago

          Source on Israel funding Hamas?

          My understanding is they allowed money to pass from Qatar to Hamas, but never directly funded them.

          • Keeponstalin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            5 months ago

            ‘Buying quiet’: Inside the Israeli plan that propped up Hamas - Irish Times

            For years, the Qatari government had been sending millions of dollars a month into the Gaza Strip – money that helped prop up the Hamas government there. Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu had not only tolerated those payments, he had encouraged them.

            Allowing the payments – billions of dollars over roughly a decade – was a gamble by Netanyahu that a steady flow of money would maintain peace in Gaza, the eventual launching point of the October 7th attacks, and keep Hamas focused on governing, not fighting.

            As far back as December 2012, Netanyahu told prominent Israeli journalist Dan Margalit that it was important to keep Hamas strong, as a counterweight to the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. Margalit, in an interview, said Netanyahu told him that having two strong rivals, including Hamas, would lessen pressure on him to negotiate toward a Palestinian state.

            “The conception of Netanyahu over a decade and a half was that if we buy quiet and pretend the problem isn’t there, we can wait it out and it will fade away,” said Eyal Hulata, Israel’s national security adviser from July 2021 until the beginning of this year.

            Qatar’s work in Gaza during this period was blessed by the Israeli government. And Netanyahu even lobbied Washington on Qatar’s behalf. In 2017, as Republicans pushed to impose financial sanctions on Qatar over its support for Hamas, he dispatched senior intelligence officials to Washington. The Israelis told US lawmakers that Qatar had played a positive role in the Gaza Strip, according to three people familiar with the trip.

            Israel’s goal was “to ensure that the next confrontation between Israel and Hamas will be the final showdown”, he wrote in the memo, dated December 21st, 2016. A pre-emptive strike, he said, could remove most of the “leadership of the military wing of Hamas”.