• jj4211@lemmy.world
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      I think as candidates Clinton, W. Bush, Gore, Obama, McCain had sincere support overshadowing the need to stop some particular bad person instead. As misguided as I think it is, Trump voters also are all about Trump less than stopping Biden. I can’t personally remember a race where “the other side must be stopped” as pretty much the sole consideration among the voters until the Trump era.

      Yes, third party candidates are dismissed in a self fulfilling prophecy, but also that reality drives most reasonable would-be third party candidates to one of the viable parties, generally leaving third party candidates that wouldn’t be that popular anyway.

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        I think as candidates Clinton, W. Bush, Gore, Obama, McCain had sincere support

        Joe Biden was better and more progressive than literally every one of those guys. It’s not Biden’s fault that you haven’t been paying much attention.

        I can’t personally remember a race where “the other side must be stopped” as pretty much the sole consideration among the voters until the Trump era.

        I can’t personally remember a president who has achieved more progress than Joe Biden, and I can remember every president starting with Nixon.

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    Not me. I’m motivated on making sure myself and all my loved ones get to continue to vote. Stopping Trump and voting for Biden just so happen to line up for that.

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    Biden

    a Catholic president with a prosecutor for a vice president

    the last four years have consisted of abortion rights being stripped, Cop City built to train police to subjugate citizens by razing a national forest, workers protested and were told to stop on threat of their livelihood with no change in worker’s rights or higher wages, immigration policies have deteriorated, food cost are astronomical and inflation is rising on everything without stopping, journalism is dying due to corporate buyout with journalist being silenced

    but Biden who is a career politician going on almost half a century now who is running against a career donor is progressive

    when was he ever progressive? what about Harris? have either of these two been progressive at any point in their careers?

    Biden worked on laws and policies that would put people in jail and Harris worked her career enforcing such laws

    If a Catholic and a Prosecutor with a resume of putting the citizens in their proper places is progressive then yes we are truly fisted in the ass and gaped with no chance in hell

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    4 months ago

    and that is why we the people will lose this election as well

    we either stop supporting bad candidates from any party or we get stuck with them

    why the fuck does any want four years of Trump or Biden is wild

    Both are too old and both are set on taking us way back in time

    already lost women’s rights and worker’s rights

    how much do y’all want to lose?

    guess we will see in the next four years what we get to lose next already getting to the point crossing state borders is difficult