• SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.de
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    i think your projecting something here or making a deliberate strawman, read my first sentence again and tell me where I am “able to recognize that [my] own system doesn’t live up to the ideal [i] have in [my] heads, but still treat it as a valid interpretation of the idea, but when it comes to a system [i] dislike then the same logic doesn’t apply all of a sudden.”

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      Nobody is projecting anything here or making ant strawman. You made a false equivalence claiming that both US and China are bad. I gave you concrete examples of China continuously improving lives of its people, and being pretty much the only place in the world where major quality of life improvements are happening for the majority. If you can’t understand that, then what else is there to tell you.

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        1 year ago

        Do you think China is a Marxist utopia? Because if not I don’t know why you are so butthurt by my comment, if yes my point stands.

        Not sure what you are trying to proof here, to me it seems like you have two simple categories in your head: “pro me” and “anti me” and you assume everyone in the same category must be the same. I remotely mention that I don’t think China is heaven on earth and you start to talk about how I must be mentally derailed or something.

        The world is not black and white kid, its grey. Some lighter , some darker. We can try to differentiate and get closer to truth trough sharing knowledge and discussing or we can pick one side and hate on everyone who we assume is on “the other side”. Seems like you picked the later

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          Nah I don’t think China is an utopia. I just think it’s far better than what US offers. If you can’t understand that one thing can be better than the other without either being some sort of an utopia, what else is there to say.

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            If you cant understand that

            “People who think China is a communist utopia are idiots”

            And

            “There is NO good aspekt of China AT ALL”

            Are two different sentences and you don’t need to start calling me mentally derailed or make site long fanboy essays about China, what else there is to say?

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                This you?

                It’s such an incredible example of cognitive dissonance. People able to recognize that their own system doesn’t live up to the ideal they have in their heads, but still treat it as a valid interpretation of the idea, but when it comes to a system they dislike then the same logic doesn’t apply all of a sudden.

                As is said, it seems like you are working with only two categories in your head: “pro China” and “pro us”

                That one can criticise one of them without liking the other doesn’t seem to fit in your head

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                  Yeah that’s me, and being able to recognize that one system is a better option than the other has nothing to do with the straw man you keep making. It seems like you’re having a really hard time wrapping your head around the concept that one thing can be preferable to another without either being perfect.

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                    OK, so you recognise what you said, still you cant find the mistake and keep thinking you are making a point.

                    I give up, you cant be reasoned with…