• ShaunaTheDead@fedia.io
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    2 months ago

    Capitalism and Communism are bad, there is a middle ground which is better than both and most of the western world uses it. Have a largely free market, but also have socially funded services that wouldn’t work under a free market system like healthcare.

  • AItoothbrush@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    I get what youre going for but the whole argument breaks down when you take into account that socdem exists. These same people oppose it, while we still dont want communism.

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      2 months ago

      Social democrats don’t have a coherent answer for the imperialism question, which is the primary contradiction of this era. Social democrats still want to maintain hyperprofits as the expense of the global proletariat

  • hahattpro@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Communism is good. I learn communism when I was young in public school. Communism is soo good. The world needd communism.

    • Said me, a person who live in the country with one political party - the communist party
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    2 months ago

    CIA and Nazis agree? Must be true. I guess communism is bad, and thinking so makes me a free thinker. Thank you for the enlightening post.

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      2 months ago

      Is this sarcasm? The venn diagram that represents overlap of what nazis believe & value vs what the CIA believes & values may not be a perfect circle, but it’s fairly close.

    • Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      I mean, the argument that communism is slavery to the state is a real and valid argument as of 2024.

      It’s not like capitalism is any less a form of slavery, except instead of stealing from everybody to give to everybody it steals from everybody and gives it all to insurance companies and other businesses benefiting oligarchs. The whole system is slavery under another name, work for the luxury of having a place to sleep at night so that your owner can live a comfortable life. Slavery to many masters who use your body for their gains.

      There’s not going to be a system that you’re not a slave to though, unless we somehow find a way to trivially convert matter to energy and vice versa and build a utopia where machines do everything for us… and we all share the rewards. All hail science fiction communism? (and keep in mind science fiction keeps becoming reality! Just don’t hold your breath for this in our lifetimes.)

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        2 months ago

        Communism is, by definition, stateless. No, that’s not a valid argument and never was.

        That ML groups work that way tells a lot about ML, not communism.

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        2 months ago

        It’s bold to assume communists give to everybody, or basically anybody.

        —someone from the Eastern Bloc

        • Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee
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          2 months ago

          We’ve never had real communism.

          I don’t think human nature will allow for true communism at scale. Like all political organizations beyond a handful of people, corruption is de facto present and completely at odds with the theory.

          People can swear up and down that it’s doable but I truly don’t think it could ever be by humans. We are too selfish.