• Maeve@kbin.earth
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 month ago

    Most people in my area who are voting blue or otherwise wish she’d be silent. No one wants to hear from killary.

          • Jesus@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 month ago

            “Woke” can be pretty broad, but IMHO, “Tankie” very specifically refers to authoritarian socialism (as opposed to democratic socialism.)

            • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              1 month ago

              There’s no such thing as “authoritarian socialism,” and “democratic socialism” is a redundant statement purely to pretend communism isn’t democratic.

              That’s why I say “tankie” is the new woke. Show me tankies on lemmy, and I’ll show you people advocating for democratization of the economy and government, even if they don’t want bourgeois democracy.

              • Jesus@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 month ago

                As someone who decided on the impractical major choice of Sociology when they were young, all I can say is that there a lot of economists, political scientists and sociologists that would argue otherwise.

                A lot of folks would argue that democratic and authoritarian systems of government can be applied to economic systems that lean toward both the capitalist and socialist ends of the spectrum.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian_socialism

                • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  1 month ago

                  As someone who decided on the impractical major choice of Sociology when they were young, all I can say is that there a lot of economists, political scientists and sociologists that would argue otherwise.

                  Sure, in Capitalist countries you can find an endless supply of anti-Marxists.

                  A lot of folks would argue that democratic and authoritarian systems of government can be applied to economic systems that lean toward both the capitalist and socialist ends of the spectrum.

                  Sure, a lot of folks don’t actually know what Marxists advocate for as well. The vast majority don’t, in fact.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian_socialism

                  I really don’t need to be linked the Wikipedia pages on these concepts. I am aware that liberals exist and their ideas of Marxism and Socialism exist. This isn’t a book-reading competition, but I’m a Marxist-Leninist, I have read lots of Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc. I know what I advocate for, and what others advocate for, and what they advocated for.

                  Can you explain the State Structure advocated by Marxist-Leninists, and why it is considered “authoritarian” in a manner that isn’t arbitrary and vibes-based?