• S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    23 days ago

    The story of the usb has it wild things. They knew that it had the problem of picking a wrong side but they had to make it cheap cause they feared manufacturers wouldn’t use it. In fact was so cheap apple decided it to give it a go first.

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          23 days ago

          I have two relatively new microphones that have mini USB, and honestly, I think it’s against the Geneva convention.

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            23 days ago

            MiniUSB is much more robust than microUSB. Those connectors would fail pretty quick while I have never even heard of miniUSB breaking. Fuck microUSB.

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              23 days ago

              Meanwhile, my Blue Yeti has a fucked mini USB socket, though in fairness that’s because Blue, in their infinite wisdom, positioned it right next to the mounting insert. It’s remarkably easy to knock the cable against the mount when moving it about.

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              Mini USB cables basically falls out every port I have. Which makes sense, those things don’t even have the tiny retaining clips that micro does.

          • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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            23 days ago

            Because it was available for longer?
            It takes a while to implement something. And it also took a while to basically standardize micro USB or mini USB as well. Remember when basically every phone manufacturer had their own connector? USB-C would for a while just break the norm again.

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              23 days ago

              Really? I’m asking why they didn’t design and use a reversible C style in 2007 instead of the micro USB. Afaik a reversible style is not dependent on tech development from 2007-2014,

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                23 days ago

                Price, I imagine. Gotta make it cheap enough to get buy in. They were still competing with FireWire at that point.

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            23 days ago

            Because its not just the connector, its the electronics. Usb c requires a chip to negotiate who is the host and whos the device. Usb-C thats completely ambiguous. But micro-B is always assumed is the device. But with power delivery becoming mainstream after micro B was drafted, the electronics can be all rolled into a singlw chip and finnally, reversible usb was cheap. To put in every device imaginable.

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              23 days ago

              Hmm so the current C can be host or device, but really I’m not focused on that aspect. I’m focused on the reversible flip it over kind of thing - like USB A you flip over because you never get it right. You could have made a USB C style that always assumed is device.

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                23 days ago

                I mean they could. But it would only solve one side. I dont think the original drafters envision using usb as a charging platform but a data transfer between thousands of different devices and host devices. I dont think they intended for most portable devices to have one side basically permanently fixed.

                For exampe for each mini and micro type B connected theres a mini and micro type A connector. But ive never seen one in the wild, but its suggestion the intention for the usb drafters.

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                  23 days ago

                  I don’t think we’re talking about the same thing and I don’t know where the confusion is.

                  Like when MicroUSB came out, I think charging was pretty standard. The cable can be a normal USB A to USB something that is reversible like USB C style, instead of the the USB micro.

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    HELP I- 😭 I DECIDED TO WEAR MY KALPAK HAT TO THE TREATY SIGNING AND THE GREEKS YELLED “HOLY WARRIOR!” AND I INTRODUCED MYSELF (I have a Mustafa Kemal Atatürk Voice) AND WE REUNIFIED TURKEY