• Honytawk@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    17 days ago

    It really feels like that here on Lemmy.

    I get it, it is a great OS. But thinking it is for everyone is just plain stupid.

    • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml
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      17 days ago

      For everyone? I agree, that’s silly. It’s definitely suitable for more than the tiny fraction of people who use it though

      • Honytawk@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        17 days ago

        Sure, because they have someone like you.

        Most families don’t have that luxury. If their OS breaks, they bring it back to the shop.

        • 1ostA5tro6yne@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          16 days ago

          funny thing, i haven’t had to fix my wife’s computer once since i got her to switch to manjaro nearly a year ago. when she was on windows i had to help her fix something at least once a month.

          funnier thing, the guy at the shop probably uses linux and knows how to fix that too.

      • Lem Jukes@lemm.eeEnglish
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        16 days ago

        Richard Stallman bursts through the wall ”IVE NEVER INSTALLED GNU/LINUX!”

        To actually answer you: Linux itself isn’t what most computer users would understand as an ‘operating system’. GNU/Linux is a family of software packages that are used to build an operating system but there is no ‘Linux OS’ the way there is Windows. And SteamOS is poised to be the best shot at significantly increasing the market share of gnu/Linux based operating systems in the general population. The steam deck is basically just the pilot program for the full release of an OS what, a decade in the making? That said, most people aren’t really going to care let alone understand the nuances of Linux/gnu/foss/kernals/etc. and so Steam OS, though a distro build on GNu/Linux technology, is going to look like its own thing to most outside observers.

        If this is flawed please feel free to correct me!

    • buttfarts@lemy.lol
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      16 days ago

      Lemmy feels like wet underwear but its like warm wet so if you just kinda go with it and forget that it feels weird then you’re not actually uncomfortable.

  • Smorty [she/her]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    16 days ago

    Real question: does any windows user actually like the OS?

    I sometimes disagree with decisions made with GNOME, but at least I know was not made by a company, thus not made for profit and also it’s Foss. And that always outweighs these bad decisions.

    • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      16 days ago

      There are parts of it I like more and more.

      The fact that it mostly just works. That very little important has changed since Windows 95 when it comes to the core user experience.

      When they tried changing things (Vista, Windows 8 “Metro”) users revolted, and the following versions were more conservative and popular (Windows 7, Win 10).

      Who knows, maybe internally they’ve decided on a bimodal release cycle:

      1. Break stuff, make changes.
      2. Return to nostalgia (but refine and keep the priority targets).

      Maybe it’s like a relationship with an abusive partner. They hurt you (privacy violations, desktop advertisements, etc., ) but then they make up, and make it hard to live without them.

  • Sidhean@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Haha good comic. Linus really speaks the truth when wondows says that haha funni.

    I use Mint btw

  • JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works
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    16 days ago

    I use Windows, but for the Win12 beta Microsoft asked for my firstborn son as a sacrificial offering.
    I mean I didn’t like him anyway, but I just thought that was a bit weird.

    The nVidia drivers seem decent though.

      • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        15 days ago

        The user unfriendliness of linux is not a selling point. If you want to make an actual difference to our technological ecosystem and break the windows monopoly then it should matter to you that most people aren’t technically proficient enough to use linux without extra help, because that guarantees it’s never going to succeed at that goal.

  • Chemical Wonka@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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    17 days ago

    I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX…

  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    I’m dev friendly

    Debuggers run in command line, making them less accessable to the average person, so they need to learn the commands to get it running.

      • racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        17 days ago

        Doesn’t that very much depend on the language and the IDE? In visual studio i don’t need to touch the command line for a debugger, it’l do all of that for me behind the scenes, which is the point of an IDE.

        • smiletolerantly@awful.systems
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          17 days ago

          Hm, yeah, if you have an IDE made for your language, I suppose you can get around it for most things. (But that is not Windows-specific, most of those exist for Linux as well, after all).

          Still, I have (for example) not worked in any project yet that did not have some bash scripts to automate project-specific tasks. Ireonically, the only person using a full-blown IDE in my team is also an absolute crack at the CLI.

          I know those are anecdotal, but I would still maintain that it is very difficult to completely get around the CLI, and frankly, I do not see the benefit of doing so. An IDE is esssentially a nice wrapper around tons of CLI tools, and being able to use and understand them can only be beneficial.

          • racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            17 days ago

            Then do some C# development in Visual studio, and you’ll see how to develop while never touching the commandline ;) (but of course you could do some things via command line if you really want to) Everything from creating project to running & debugging to building & deploying, all via the IDE

            • smiletolerantly@awful.systems
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              17 days ago

              Thanks, but for the little C# I need to write I’ll stick with nvim :D (Yeah yeah I know)

              Incidentally, when I started to learn programming, I definitely was using an IDE (I can honestly not remember which one - I was following some book which included the setup of the IDE and instructions for that IDE only).

              But even back then it always bugged me that I did not know what was going on in the background. When a button did not do what the book said it would do, that would turn into frustration because I could not understand what had happened, or why something failed. Sure, part of that was just inexperience, but even today, I easily despair at GUIs.

              I could for example never get started with Godot because my brain just does not connect all the checkboxes and sliders with what is happening in the background. Bevy, on the other hand, was super easy to pick up precisely because there is no GUI.

              Maybe I am just weird.

              (Also I do not want to discourage anyone from using GUI tools, I originally just commented to support the “Linux is dev friendly” statement)

      • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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        17 days ago

        Most Windows debuggers have a GUI, including Microsoft’s own offerings, and even 3rd party ones (I use RemedyBG) have one.

        • smiletolerantly@awful.systems
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          17 days ago

          Fair, but for those there presumably is a CLI as well? And conversely, what is stopping you from using a GUI debugger onLinux?

          I was more thinking along the lines: you’d be hardpressed to find a debugger that does not have a CLI

    • thepiguy@lemmy.ml
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      17 days ago

      It seems you have not typed in “gui” when using lldb via cli. Also, people use cli debuggers because they want to. Everything has a gui, jetbrains happens to make some of the best ones, based on top of cli debuggers like lldb.