Since April 2022, 110,000 migrants have come to New York, with 10,000 arriving a month, largely bused here to the Port Authority terminal by conservative leaders from border states like Texas, in a political dispute about border security.

The surge has forced city officials to open more than 200 emergency sites to house migrants, after its traditional shelters became overwhelmed. And schools are feeling the strain as well.

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    Immigration and immigrants are the backbone of America and always have been. The way Republicans use them as political pawns is sick, xenophobic, and racist.

    Immigration improves economies and jobs and the immigrant’s own lives. When handled in the right way (as New York is attempting to do) they can be a huge net positive on their communities and America at large.

    Growing pains are inevitable. But if Republicans are too bigoted or stupid to take advantage of willing workers, Democrats entirely should.

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    So now migrants are a problem?

    Glad we’re finally on the sane page!

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      I think the issue is republican leaders intentionally causing harm to migrant children for their own joy and political gain. They moved them to areas like new york with the goal of overburdening and breaking the system.

      It’s be the equivalent of me buying 100,000 AR-15 and air dropping them onto a bus full of children; have a republican say wow these guns are a problem and respond, “oh so noooooow guns are a problem CHECKMATE”

      Regardless, decades of actively fucking the people, land, and economies of south American countries have indeed caused a humanitarian crisis leading to migrants fleeing for safety and hope. Neither party seems to have much interest in proactively sorting it out. Reap what you sow.

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        I think the issue is Republican leaders intentionally causing harm to migrant children…

        Funny how this implies immigrant children are actually better off In conservative states.

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        So it’s fine when it’s a small border town, it’s not fine when it’s NYC, because we bussed them to NYC, to a place with more resources?

        And accepting migrants isn’t a long term solution, it’s not a solution at all. What we need to do is fix their countries, and having their best flee isn’t helping their countries at all.

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          If you love next to an airport, expect noise. If you live next to a border, expect immigrants. It’s the idiots in a small town complaining about their choices that are causing this. If they don’t like it, move and then the people who want to be there live there

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          Randomly relocating migrants to other cities with zero communication or planning with pure intention of causing harm to the migrants as well as the people of the arrival city for political gain is indeed a bad thing to do. I must remind people that cruelty and harm is the point of Republican policies. There was no thought that New York has resources so clearly this is a good choice of the health of either the city or the migrant to send buses there; else it would be planned and communicated ahead of time.

          Let’s use Texas for example. There are big cities in Texas if you weren’t aware: Dallas, Houston, Austin - odd that there was no thought of sending migrants to those cities with all their city resources. There are also large other cities between Texas and New York: Oklahoma City, Kansas City, Indianapolis, Charleston, Pittsburgh, etc - it’s almost like right wing propoganda incessantly targets New York as a city of Democrats and we must punish them. Cruelty is the point. There is no functional purpose of sending migrants to New York other than cruelty and chaos for political gain.

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            Well yeah, its the only way to make illegal immigration an issue to the democrats.

            And its only cruel to the dnc.

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      There’s a critical difference, though, between the complaints of the NY City and State politicians, and the complaints of the Governors of Southern states that are doing the busing.

      Folks like Abbott are complaining about these people coming over the border, while simultaneously spending money to make then Someone Else’s problem.

      The politicians in NYC are upset at folks like Abbott for sending so many migrants there, but acknowledge that they are humans that need help, and their beef with the Federal Government is simply to send more money. They are also explicitly asking for expedited work permits for these people. These migrants want to work, but have no legal way to do that right now.

      Between the young people everywhere in the country who can’t afford to have children, the regressive laws that are driving out young people who can afford to start a family, and all these migrant humans that the South does not want, I would not be surprised if there is a major demographic shift in the next census, where the liberal states which have been seeing a net outflow of residents reverse that trend. After all, these migrants are supposed to be enumerated in the census, and count in apportionment, even if they can’t vote. Well see whether Texas manages to ship a Congressional seat or two away to NYC on these buses.

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      More like they introduce additional obstacles that we need to work together to overcome.

      They are a net-benefit to society as a whole, even if it isn’t immediate or without challenges.

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        False. Immigrants are not a net benefit, except as cheap, abusable labor.

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          They commit crimes at a lower rate and improve the economy. Also, don’t we have a labor shortage everyone keeps going on about? And if they’re legal, they don’t get abused. Which is why we should make an easier path to getting them work papers.

          So I mean. The whole labor thing boosting the economy is a big deal.

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          False. Immigrants are a net benefit. On average, every additional person contributing to a society is beneficial.

          You’re coming at this from the obvious, white male perspective of “They took our jobs.” Admit it.

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            Oh absolutely. No American will work as cheap or be as abusable as a h1b1. I would post the pewresearch study, says that for every 10% increase in immigrants, wages go down 2%, but google is not being helpful.

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              So the government should step in to block immigration, but not the abuse of workers?

              Gonna block you now. I can tell you have nothing ‘beneficial’ to add to this conversation.

              Sorry you’re so racist and unskilled that you need to blame immigrants for your problems. Maybe you should become more competitive in this capitalist system your kind are so fond of.

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                When has the government ever been pro-worker? The only lever we can actually pull is immigration.