Leaker yeux1122 says that Apple Store staff have been told to make sure iPhone 15 buyers know about the change…

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    If theyre in the apple ecosystem, they already have apple products that charge with USB-C.

    not an apple user myself, by my cousin is stoked he doesnt have to carry extra cables to charge his phone as he already carries his Macbook charger with him. Doesnt apply to magsafe ones for obvious reasons

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      11 months ago

      The magsafe ones still use USB-C on the charger side, and you are not required to use the magsafe cable, so honestly just bringing the charger and a C-to-C cable will charge both the phone and the laptop.

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        How do people even use the magsafe cables? Not a mac user, but I initially liked the idea - so I got some cables and port inserts which pretty much look like the apple variant. I stopped using it after killing a charger by shorting it out with some metal particles trapped by the magnet, and noticing that all cables started collecting small metal particles when used outside of a sterile environment.

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          My current laptop has a MagSafe, and I had laptops from before they had switched to usb c charging and I have never had that problem.

          Do you work in a metal shop?

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            11 months ago

            Do you work in a metal shop?

            Not that I’m aware of.

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              I’m not sure, I can only reply anecdotally that I have used Apple laptops with mag safe connectors for many years and never had a problem with metal getting stuck in there and shorting stuff out.

              I think I remember a post from a few years back where someone was having problems charging and found a used staple stuck in there, but I don’t think it has been a wide spread problem.

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      11 months ago

      The MagSafe ones can still charge over USB-C if you want to, using MagSafe is optional. I never bring the MagSafe cable when I travel and just use regular USB-C cables.

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    11 months ago

    Apple doesn’t tell its store employees SHIT. We were on MacRumors and streaming the keynotes so we wouldn’t be blindsided. I really doubt they were told this.

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    I don’t get it, current charger is usbc out. The current charging cable is usbc to lighting. Why won’t the included cable work with the old charger? New cable should be just usbc male on both ends. What am I missing?

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      The new cable, that is included in the box, is C to C, both male, so there is literally no issue. Apple is just butthurt that they had to ditch lightning.

      And probably they want to redirect the anger of iPhone buyers from them to the EU.

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        And 9to5 mac is butthurt too? Like… I still have two iPod classic cables and they are not going to the landfill. They will replace the one I use when it breaks. Same will happen for these, you will give them along to whoever still has a lighting jack until they break.

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        They are so butthurt they said they will be limiting data transfer speeds to usb 2.0 because they want people to use their stupid icloud subscription

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          The lightning phones could only use 2.0 speeds. There is no change to the hardware except for the form factor of the connector.

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            And that is the problem. If Apple was truly selling top end hardware they should have used a USB-3 or even a Thunderbolt 4 port and possibly a truly fast charging experience, but again, they don’t want their customers to use their usb-c ports for anything but charging because that would lower the value of iCloud and they like that subscription money now.

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              Fast charging and data transfer are two different things. The iPhone must comply with USB PD at least 100W.

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      11 months ago

      The chargers are fine, but the old cables are now much less useful. The only thing left (I think?) that uses lightning are AirPods.

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        That’s going to be me after the iPhone 15 comes out. I’ve been needing to upgrade for a while now, but have been waiting until the 15 comes out so I can switch over to usb-c. The only one left after that will be my AirPods.

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      I have friends who still have iPhone XR, XS etc and those came with USB A bricks. And any time I buy some cheap gadget with a USB-C port it just comes with a USB-A to C cable. So I can see lots of people still out there with only USB A chargers, although you’d think they would be in the minority now.

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      All my bricks are still USB-A because they don’t break, so if I were to come home with a C to C cable, I’d be out of luck.

      But it’s just a sales tactic, people are acting like Apple is trying to start an uprising against the EU or something

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    Landfill” Wouldn’t it be best if you donate a cable or something if its in a good enough condition?

    Better than just tossing it out, especially if some people don’t upgrade every single release and would still like a cable.

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      Ya that’s dumb asf, especially if it’s just to charge the phone which the majority of people only need it for that.

      Problem solved, I have usb c to lightning adaptor too anyone needs to borrow my cable to charge I can use it and so can they

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      11 months ago

      You mean the “re-use” part of reduce, re-use, recycle? Well no it’s not profitable you see

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      11 months ago

      Not from Apple’s point of view. They want you to buy their latest and greatest, not some used device. They just tolerate that market to push adoption.

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    Previous iphone models are not gonna disappear over night, and there are hundreds of millions of them out there. People are still using iphone 6 and 7 till this day. Lightning cables and accessories are still gonna be made and sold for years to come.

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      Right? All my old phones go to my wife, and her old phones go to the in-laws, etc etc. The cables can be handed over along with the phone.

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    I’ll probably buy one or two of the lightning usb-c adapters to use for a while to allow charging when travelling without extra cables.

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    Buyers should be sure to let apple store staff know Apple made the choice to use lightning instead of usb-c because they are proprietary assholes.

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        Maybe they should talk to their employers about being forced to act like corporate mouthpieces. Or refuse. But if a bootlicker wants to lick boot, give em a taste.

        Edit: My bad, I forgot you Americans don’t have workers rights. You get what you vote for.

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          Do you think Apple store employees have the CEOs phone number on autodial?

          You’re complaining to the girl at checkout about prices like she has anything to do with it.

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          I hope you’re not actually as rude to retail workers, waitstaff, and other members of the service industry as your comments make you seem like you’d be

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            I’m not rude to anybody who isn’t rude first.

            But if someone is going to act like a braindead mouthpiece for a corporation then I will tell them why they’re wrong.

            I never said be mean to staff, or rude. And you can’t point out where I have because it didn’t happen. You can still tell staff that insist on telling you that regulators are the cause of e-waste to inform themselves of their corporations decisions and how they sound parroting lies.

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          “You get what you vote for”. My friend, you are unfamiliar with American politics it seems. Corruption exists in the world and gerrymandering is a problem in the us. I implore you to see others with empathy instead of hatred.

          This comes off very condescending and xenophobic. I get that other countries have better rights. I’d love to have that. But if you don’t quite know the extent of what you’re hatefully spewing, maybe try to see things through others shoes instead of insulting them. We are all people and the world would be a better place if everyone realized that.

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    Staff will advise them that the box includes a USB-C to USB-C cable, but not a charging brick, so they may need to buy one …

    Wow big if true.

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      11 months ago

      They stopped including a charger a few iPhones ago. At least they can just buy USB C to A cables if they have USB A chargers, and those cables are going to be cheap, unlike apples cables.

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        I was being sarcastic. Apple reminds customers old power bricks nay not work with new cables is kind of a non story.

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          11 months ago

          The semi old power bricks will work though since they are USB C out.