• fubo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1809·
    10 months ago

    As a reminder, Brave was created by the guy who brought you JavaScript and was later fired from Mozilla for donating to hate groups. Brave also profits from multiple forms of fraud including NFTs and affiliate hijacking.

    • hagelslager@feddit.nlEnglish
      756·
      10 months ago

      If folk want to have a chromium-based browser made by a company, take a look at Vivaldi instead (which will keep the old plugin architecture, so adblockers work).

      • Ganbat@lemmyonline.comEnglish
        162·
        10 months ago

        Vivaldi is what I use, and it’s absolutely the best Chromium browser I’ve ever tried.

        That said, I’d switch to Firefox in a heartbeat if it could duplicate that sidebar. I use that thing all the time, and it’s the only thing keeping me on Chromium.

        • beckerist@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9·
          10 months ago

          As a strictly Firefox user for… as long as I can remember… what side bar? If it’s a bookmark or tab container I could probably hack a plugin together pretty quick.

          • Firipu@startrek.websiteEnglish
            81·
            10 months ago

            Try it out. It’s a sidebar that allows you to put all kinds of websites and tools in small pop-out windows.

            A less visually appealing, but much more powerful version of the opera chat sidebar.

            I’ve tried to get something similar in Firefox, but nothing comes even close.

            Built-in functions >>> addons any day of the week.

            (cfr mouse gestures)

          • Ganbat@lemmyonline.comEnglish
            4·
            10 months ago

            It’s a thin, persistent bar on the left side of the page with tools and shortcuts. By default, it’s where you find bookmarks, history, downloads and things like that, but you can also add custom websites to it as well. They pop out either over or alongside the main window (depending on whether the pin button is pressed), and they display the mobile webpage when available, to be more usable in such a small window. It’s how I use Discord and Mastodon.

      • chepox@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        72·
        10 months ago

        I have Vivaldi on my android but I do not know how to get adblock working. Is it even possible?

        Firefox mobile has Ublock Origin and works great. Even on YouTube.

        • Madis@lemm.eeEnglish
          5·
          10 months ago

          Menu -> Settings -> Tracker and Ad Blocking -> Block Trackers and Ads

          • chepox@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            1·
            10 months ago

            Thanks. I quickly tried it on YouTube and did get an ad. So I guess it doesn’t work on those. Bummer.

            Edit. Tried it some more and did not get any more ads. It takes a little to get the video playing but other that 10/10. No ad experience. Awesome.

      • CALIGVLA@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        (which will keep the old plugin architecture, so adblockers work).

        Will they? All I remember was them saying that their built-in adblock (which is very barebones) would still work after Manifest v3, nothing much else.

    • Ian@Cambio@lemm.eeEnglish
      1046·
      10 months ago

      This is misleading. The BAT was a reasonable idea not really a scam.

      • fubo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        406·
        10 months ago

        It’s not just BAT; Brave also supports NFTs, which are even more unambiguously a scam.

        The company is in bed with the cryptocurrency “industry” which cannot exist without constant fraud, ransomware, and other crimes.

  • AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    976·
    10 months ago

    Just a reminder, one of the largest investors in Brave is a right-wing billionaire who runs a corporate espionage agency that contracts with the US Department of Defense to spy on people.

      • Pfosten@feddit.deEnglish
        36·
        10 months ago

        Well, it’s about Peter Thiel. As a source for his involvement, Wikipedia cites this TechCrunch article, which mentions funding from Thiel’s “Founders Fund”.

        I’d rather criticize Brave for other reasons though, like being led by Brendan Eich or supporting crypto.

    • Fades@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      10 months ago

      Wow, I actually had no idea. I haven’t used Brave in awhile now but they’ve been making some strange decisions lately. This makes the picture a little clearer

  • DerisionConsulting@lemmy.caEnglish
    382·
    10 months ago

    Just a reminder, Brave was using people’s likenesses to solicit donations without their consent, and without necessarily give those people the donations.

  • Fades@lemmy.worldEnglish
    254·
    10 months ago

    Damn the negative stories just keep coming in regards to Brave. It’s a shame, I liked using their iOS app but I said fuck it awhile ago already. Firefox is my main b rowser

  • downpunxx@kbin.social
    193·
    10 months ago

    the brave experience was less than ideal for me, the brave search is unusable, i switched back to firefox, which i had moved to from chrome

    also, related, but a side note, word to the wise, never ever ever use a free vpn ever, someones gotta foot the bill for the exit server bandwidth, and either they’re keeping logs or they’re not keeping logs, but you’ll never know, and you won’t know when they sell their settup to the next guy. always use a major vpn service who’s audited and shown proof they’re not keeping logs, they’re in the business of secure and private vpn service. free vpns like what brave are offering are not in that business, and server, rack space, bandwidth costs actual money

  • Pat@kbin.run
    133·
    10 months ago

    Vivaldi is a better brave. You get built in ad blocking and tracking prevention along with not having built in crypto

    • Clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      82·
      10 months ago

      And mouse gestures! Configurable tab stacking! Workspaces! Notes and pinned tabs! Tab tiling! Web apps in the sidebar! I love Vivaldi.

      • Clegko@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        10 months ago

        Remember when Opera had all of these things a literal decade+ ago? I remember.

    • dangblingus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      39·
      10 months ago

      There’s no built in crypto anything except for the odd ad on the homepage to buy crypto. Which, sure, is kinda lame, but they don’t mine crypto in the background or anything like that.

  • ZeroCool@feddit.chEnglish
    5·
    10 months ago

    Update: Brave plans to address the issue in a future release. The VPN service will only be installed after a user purchases the VPN.

    “Oh gee whiz did we do that?! Woopsie doodle! We’ll fix it someday!”

    Furthermore, no data is sent to Brave from the VPN services. End

    This might be true but the bigger problem is I have exactly zero reason to believe anything Brave says about the things they’re installing on people’s machines without consent. If you’re still using Brave at this point you’re a fool.

  • notannpc@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    The only chrome variant that doesn’t seem sketchy to install is chromium. The built from open source chromium. And that’s just because some sites barely function unless you’re using chrome’s rendering.

    For everything else, Firefox.

  • Engywuck@lemm.eeEnglish
    2066·
    10 months ago

    The usual anti-Brave hate wagon, with FUD and pitchforks. They’re already working on it:

    https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/33726

    VPN is a paid service, it doesn’t connect to anywhere if one doesn’t pay. This is just a service installed just in case.

    Mozilla did far worse “mistakes” over the time (Pocket , Cliqz, Mr. Robot, deal with the worst privacy offenders on the Earth such as Google Facebook, Amazon… and so on) but they somehow always got a free pass, with people swallowing their corpo PR every single time.