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Do they count the head? Thats interesting
i love the tech. but i think there should be about 3-5cm buffer… there’s no big advantage here.
And if they add a 5cm buffer you’ll just complain when someone’s called offside for being off 6cm. You’re not fixing the problem, you’re moving it.
honestly I’ll be fine with that.
Real fans complain about everything lmao he’s offside look at the picture
They made a 3D computar rendered image! So thats 100% reliable because technology and pixels!
It feels like VAR and refereeing in Europe are better than in some top leagues, the amount of shitty mistakes even using that same fucking technology in La Liga & EPL is unbelievable.
They don’t use the same technology. This screenshot is from the semi-automated VAR system used by the Champions League. Not sure about La Liga, but the Premier League don’t use the semi-automated system, it’s completely manual.
Then they need to adopt that system. We’ve already seen too many crucial mistakes by idiots controlling VAR (ex Liverpool disallowed goal) that cost teams points.
Ridiculous rules
As the laws of the game stand it is offside, however I do feel like it should be measured from the feet. I know you can score with your head, but there is always going to be a certain amount of lean while sprinting. Arms/shoulders shouldn’t come into play because a defender on the half turn is going to have their arm out for balance as they’re turning (shown in the photo). I’d prefer feet as the point of measure, but from the current rules it is offside. Fine margins at such high speed though.
If you look closely The defenders offside line is drawn from his knee a playable part of his body
it should be measured from the feet
This. They should look at feet only, that seems like the most fair. And to add to that I’d say one foot of the attacker would have to be behind a defender’s foot in its entirety for it to be offside, not just a toe.
I would ask you why you think track running isn’t measured by the runner’s feet then as well. Why does a runner cross a finish line when they cross with their head and shoulders?
Plus, generally it’s easier to just tell with the feet as they’re on the ground. No need for fancy graphs and close call lines.
I can’t fathom that this is an offsides, it’s cunt-hairs. But both sides will argue forever.
I think offside should be checked on the foot positions only.
The call is obviously a correct one. My personal belief is that the laws of the game in conjunction with the technology we have should change to allow these plays to stand and count as goal. It’s frustrating to see such offsides like this stand when the reality is the attacker isn’t gaining an actual advantage with the 3 inches of space
My argument is that offsides should be determined by one’s center of gravity and not extremities.
What happens if a player was leaning back with their foot stretched forward to control the ball?
Would still go down to the center of gravity. If we’re standing next to each other, shoulder to shoulder, and I reach with my leg to make a play on the ball, I’m not creating an unfair advantage on the defender. Defender has the ability to reach with their leg and intercept as well.
Fair
FWIW I’m in agreement - for me something needs to change as I don’t think the above should be offside, no matter how technically offside it is. As you say it’s about creating an unfair advantage, which there isn’t in the above for me (and I realise the then issue of subjectivity, but then that’s where centre of gravity would be interesting).
Yep. At some point I feel like the rule will be adjusted but maybe I’m just wrong haha. Most ppl seem to prefer the black and white VAR decisions.
So you would need VAR for pretty much every offside call? There is no way a ref can call precise center of gravity on their own. How would you enforce that rule in lower leagues or even amateur play?
I’d argue calling center of gravity is easier than you think. If my center of gravity (hip/groin area) is past yours, the rest of the body follows and it’s an easy call.
Offsides should be judged by foot position only, change my mind.
Remember when we gave great offensive play the advantage in a game that favors natural quality densive play?
this might be controversial, but i think goals like this should stand…
Don’t get it his hand are onside.
Too much head