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He also scored an absolute banger as well, which makes it even sadder
Watching this with my Juventini cousins who are pro-var and they are fuming lmao
i mean you can be pro var and also pro common fucking sense too right
The way I see it VAR can (and likely has) be used as a tool to allow more corruption into the sport, by giving people time to decide whether to intervene or not, to officiate in whichever way, gives the outcome they want the highest likelihood to happen, I cannot be pro VAR for this reason alone.
Then you add in the fact goals are scored and people aren’t celebrating, taking joy and excitement out of the sport cannot be a good thing.
Would you let the goal stand?
Nah not really, often those two things are in direct conflict of each other.
It’s so tough because the whole point of VAR in relation to offsides is to be able to determine if something is offside or it isn’t, which in 99%+ of cases you can see. There are these occasions where something is technically offside, like with a sliver of someone’s boot or a tiny part of their shoulder, but it doesn’t feel like it’s really in the spirit of the rule. In those cases though you can’t say that you’ll allow it because offside is meant to be a black or white decision, and if you let these minuscule infringements go you then need to decide where the line is again.
The rule needs to be adapted so that every time someone is called offside everyone can agree that the striker was gaining an advantage.
There really needs to be a buffer zone for offsides calls.
There is no skill here, the defender didn’t make a conscious attempt to play the attacker offside by 5mm, it’s just pure luck.
I’d argue that any advantage an attacker gets inside 30cm is negligible, and hardly worth all this effort to penalise.
At, it feels like we roll the dice to see if a goal stands based on an offside call that neither player knew anything about.
Your proposal doesn’t change anything other than create an even more arbitrary point to argue about.
So that just moves the line 30cm. It doesn’t solve the problem. Imagine this exact same picture except Kean is 31cm past the last defender, the line is drawn at 30cm from the last man. Same problem
Sure in this case that would make this one definitively onside, but like I said there will be a time when a striker is ~30cm past the last defender and the line drawing becomes an issue again
But at least you can say he was well offside, and it would be much easier to take. It changes the narrative and players/fans will feel much less hard done by with tight calls.
"if my team had a goal disallowed because the was 31cm offside, it would be much easier to take.
I remember pre-var there was “same hight”
This is definitely same hight, no offside
These calls are getting ridiculous.
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pretty clear cut case, 100% offside and this is all in the intention of the rule /s
That’s actually insane lmao
I still think this is against the spirit of the law. The offside rule is not supposed to be affected by millimeters. It’s supposed to make sure someone’s not waiting behind the defense for the ball
You have to draw the line somewhere (pun intended) so you’ll still have those „millimeter decisions“ at some other place.
Shameful
Oh, look at the “massive advantage” 0.5mm Kean got from this position.
As long as the margin for error in the technology is within reason, works for me. I don’t know if it can be calibrated to have a little leeway or whatever but it is what it is.
I’d rather live with the pointlessness of being offside by a cunt hair than have humans involved at all in objective matters.
If the technology is consistent and quick, I’ll take it.
There’s absolutely no way that it’s precise enough to be able to call this tiny a margin
I’d rather live with the pointlessness of being offside by a cunt hair than have humans involved at all in objective matters.
You are an enemy of football
Been saying this for a while, but the offsides line should be a shoulder-to-shoulder bar drawn from both players, and if there’s any overlap it should be onside.
Easily measurable, gives enough leeway and is drawn from center of gravity. It would eliminate garbage calls like this or where a foot brings a player offsides but gives no obvious advantage.
Calls like this are totally disingenuous and goes against the authenticity of the game, ESPECIALLY considering that both players were moving in the opposite direction of the goal…
But let’s be honest, such offsides as this one from keene are also an anomaly. Usually they are never as tight as this. So if the technology get’s it right 99.8% of the time and the other 0.2% is a mistake like this, i have nothing against it. Still way better them the enaglish VAR lines or on field referees.
When the VAR output falls inside the uncertainty of the technology we can’t consider the decision reliable! That what people are missing here. We still don’t know the range of accuracy of VAR because they never disclosed it but I expect 5-10mm, not certainly 1mm
Draw the line 5cm thick. Easy.
It really is that simple more or less, but people in this thread are against this because it’s “just drawing a line in a different place” as if an error bound is the same thing as the actual measurement
The only thing that matters in these situations is the center of balance of the players and the part of the body which they use to control the inbound pass. But this, when both players are facing the opposite direction of the goal, is ridiculous.
Long studs vs short studs
That’s just stupid
Idiotic. How do they even know they have the exact frame correct for when the pass was made?
This is not football anymore.
Thank God it was ruled off. How could the player possibly catch up to Kean after giving up such a head start? Thank you VAR for saving football once again.
Wtf are you on about he’s offside
Ranieri goal against you last year was even closer. Why are you complaining only now that it suits you?
Should we say he’s not offside because it’s a bit too close for you