I suppose it explains why people have a bad attitude about Wayland when tools providing useful functionality are described as trojans.
X11 can (…mostly…) have great security by just providing a suitable X Security module to it. It just seems it wasn’t considered that big of an issue that anyone bothered. Nokia Maemo/Meego used to rock such a module.
But I. What way is a screen recorder under X11 working any different than a trojan. It records the screen without any restrictions and without having to ask for any permissions.
It records the screen without any restrictions and without having to ask for any permissions.
Which is exactly the requirements you need to remote desktop access via tools like meshcentral, anydesk… I don’t understand this mentality of “X11 was broken!!!”. Yeah well Wayland is broken since it stops legitimate uses as well.
No, there are remote desktop, screen recording, just in a secure and controlled way. Letting any application read your screen and snoop your keyboard without restriction may be convenient, but it is just horrible in so many ways.
If your preferred tool doesn’t work under Wayland, it is most likely not because of limitations of Wayland (there are such cases, but they are getting quite rare) but because they haven’t implemented support for it.
Not sure what vlc would help with. So I have to use a very specific DE in order to get the functionality? Does this really sound like the linux way to you? Getting forced to use particular stuff to get something to work?
I suppose it explains why people have a bad attitude about Wayland when tools providing useful functionality are described as trojans.
X11 can (…mostly…) have great security by just providing a suitable X Security module to it. It just seems it wasn’t considered that big of an issue that anyone bothered. Nokia Maemo/Meego used to rock such a module.
But I. What way is a screen recorder under X11 working any different than a trojan. It records the screen without any restrictions and without having to ask for any permissions.
By that logic, is the compositor working any different than a trojan? Is there really a difference?
The Wayland compositor is always capturing all your keyboard and mouse as well. No permissions asked. Pretty sus.
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Which is exactly the requirements you need to remote desktop access via tools like meshcentral, anydesk… I don’t understand this mentality of “X11 was broken!!!”. Yeah well Wayland is broken since it stops legitimate uses as well.
No, there are remote desktop, screen recording, just in a secure and controlled way. Letting any application read your screen and snoop your keyboard without restriction may be convenient, but it is just horrible in so many ways. If your preferred tool doesn’t work under Wayland, it is most likely not because of limitations of Wayland (there are such cases, but they are getting quite rare) but because they haven’t implemented support for it.
Care to share some then? Specifically ones that allow remote control without local access to grant permission.
Gnome have built o RDP and vlc https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Mutter/RemoteDesktop
Not sure what vlc would help with. So I have to use a very specific DE in order to get the functionality? Does this really sound like the linux way to you? Getting forced to use particular stuff to get something to work?
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