While Trump deserves our ire and some jail time, I’m more concerned with what his popularity says about our society.
He’s a gift in some ways: he’s shown the true colors of our neighbors to us. If he makes it to the oval office again, so much would have to have gone wrong in the belt-and-suspenders approach being used right now.
I trust that there’s an end game to disqualifying him because that’s the only way we can buy time while figuring out how to address the ugly xenophobic truth about the future in the US.
I STRONGLY recommend reading Susan Faludi’s “stiffed” if you want a play book on where we’re headed (spoiler: it’s the 90s again, but worse because one of the lost boys could be POTUS again)
We should know Friday on the ruling in Colorado. Judge heard closing arguments today.
I really don’t know why everyone discounts the propaganda so much. I’ve been a broken record on this lately because, yes, we have assholes in vast numbers, but we also have a massive propaganda problem that is essentially creating a reality that doesn’t actually exist.
In their version of reality there’s actually a real reason why everyone is coming down on Trump and it’s spun in a way to make you think he’s a victim of the “ruling elite” who’s trying to prevent him from Fixing America™. Their version of reality has Trump as a likeable silly person who has a loving family and just wants to use his Business Acumen™©® to set America on the right path. Past that there’s all the Facebook/social media fantasies people make up and spread, qanon shit, etc…
That’s not to say there aren’t hundreds of thousands of people who are just straight up racist hateful assholes, but a very large portion of the people who vote for Trump think they’re actually picking a good person… It’s infuriating, the criminal isn’t a criminal and ol Biden who the right has been attacking forever is somehow actually a criminal that no one can catch…
Belt-and-suspendera approach? We’re barely using a drawstring to keep our pants up.
He’s a gift in some ways: he’s shown the true colors of our neighbors to us.
I’d be more thankful if there were way less “neighbors” showing their true colors right now.
WHY IS THIS MAN STILL WALKING FREE
Remember, guys: defending free speech for Nazis is totally the best way to “preserve democracy”
I mean, they should get to say what they want to say.
It’s up to us to recognize it as bullshit and rise above it.
Freedom of religion + Nazi freedom of speech = inability to recognize it as bullshit and rise above it.
How about: they get to say what they want with equal time allowed for rebuttal and exposure of blatant fascist lies. Same for religion.
No, no they should not. Nazi speech should be criminalized. Just like yelling Fire! in a crowded theatre. Nazi speech is even more deadly and destructive.
Yeah, they say the same things about pro-trans speech.
The problem is, when you start policing speech, you open up the floodgates for people to pick and choose what is right or wrong to say. If it’s okay to ban ‘nazi speech,’ then what’s stopping the next congress from banning ‘trans speech’ or ‘communist speech’?
Nah. It’s up to us, as a society, to work together to keep these ideas at bay through discussion. If we try to ban people from sharing these ideas altogether, it will create a Streisand Effect and give them more power than they would otherwise have.
Germany seems to be doing ok with banning it. And the rest of us aren’t doing so hot with allowing it.
Criticize Israel for a week straight, here. When your ban is lifted, tell us how much you love absolute free speech.
Unfortunately reality doesn’t work this way. A popular lie beats an unpopular truth. That’s a large part of why we can’t make any meaningful progress on addressing climate change.
Translation: “The legal system isn’t sufficiently stacked in my favour anymore like all the previous hearings were, so somebody move to illegal means of nudging the results while I hide behind plausible deniability in saying that I did not mean that at all.”
Perfect recap.
It’s actually better. He didn’t write the comment, he just re-shared it, boosting the visibility. This is his typical MO. “Lots of people are saying the thing. I didn’t say the thing.”
This dude gets more unhinged and desperate every passing day, but a huge chunk of Americans just can’t see it. It’s crazy.
I think a lot of them do see it, but he pisses off the libs and seems to be promising to hurt the people they want to be hurt, so they are OK with that.
this should be a clear violation of the gag order. but it wont be. theyll be some hand waving and he wont be held to account. and no, a monetary fine is not justice.
The gag order was in reference to court staff only, wasn’t it? Didn’t the judge explicitly leave himself off it? I forget which judge this is, there are so many
Judge said they had thick enough skin to deal with whatever he said.
I doubt the judge is OK with Trump openly calling for people to do harm to them.
That was very stupid of the judge. Insults and mockery normally are just that. But when someone has a platform as large as Trump full of violent traitors, it turns into death threats pretty quick.
Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?
This judge and his court have been getting death threats since day one. He’s a chill dude 😎. Respect
honestly im surprised he didnt just outright threaten someone. it kinda feels like this is a desperate attempt at a mistrial.
how many judges would allow ‘well, you only broke the intent of my rules not the letter, so ill let it slide this 3rd time’. its prolly zero… unless of course you know the intent of the defendant is to generate a mistrial or other incident allowing appeal.
“I wasn’t calling for violence when one of my supporters did violence to these people. I said citizen arrest. They misinterpreted when they thought I wanted violence. The knock-on effect of chilling any future prosecutions also isn’t what I wanted.”
Will no one rid me of this judge?
Do it yourself f-ing orange clown. Such a grift.
Please just vote this buffoon out. I beg of you as a European. Please vote him out and make him irrelevant in every way possible. Just stop this madness.
We did vote him out. 3 years ago.
Member when he basically told hillary to fuck off and shut up because she lost and we shouldn’t have to hear from her anymore? Member when his supporters said they’d have backed off and accepted it if he lost?
God I wish this asshat followed his own advice, but a grifting amoral asshole will always do the grifting amoral asshole thing and cultists gotta cultist…
I’m so sick of living here, but I have no marketable skills to offer other countries…
Yes, but I meant next year. Because it’s like I’m in 2016 again. Everybody thinks Hillary is going to win and NO WAY anyone would vote for this loser. But with Biden this time.
We already did. He’s trying to get voted back in. I’m afraid nothing short of him not existing any more will release his death grip on the GOP.
nothing short of him not existing anymore
And the thing of it is is that this is exactly accurate. The man could die from anything and there would be a small but not insignificant crowd of people prepared to make him a martyr, claiming it was some “deep state” assassination
If it’s gonna happen regardless, maybe someone should defenestrate him.
Yeah, but at least they wouldn’t be able to vote for him any more. The hate he represents was there before him and will be there after he’s gone.
Weird hypothetical: what if he dies, but he’s still getting votes? My guess is that there’s a decent portion of his supporters that would vote for his corpse, maybe assuming it’s some conspiracy and that he’ll rise from the dead. I mean he wouldn’t be able to take the oath of office, but would congress have to invoke the 25th amendment if a dead person wins the election?
I’m sure he’d still get votes after dying, but not enough to actually be elected. If he died while the election was going on and won, I think the vice president would become president, just as if he’d died in office.
Won’t somebody rid me of this meddlesome priest?
Trump is a damn criminal fascist grifter. The day he leaves our lives, I’ll do a goddamn dance.
Somebody’s going to get killed over his narcissistic rage bullshit.
You say that as if it hasn’t happened already.
The Judge after a Right Wing Terrorist puts a bullet in his head: “Let this $10000 fine be a warning to NOT let this happen again!”
Someone should fucking citizens arrest that seditious piece of shit.
I don’t know anything about how truthsocial works.
Is “retruthed” the same thing as “retweeting” (or whatever that’s called now on xitter), or is it closer to “liking” something?
Regardless, trump now thinks he’s found a loophole in the gag oder by letting other people post it and then boosting it somehow?
The article was super confusing to me.
