Free speech can’t flourish online — Social media is an outrage machine, not a forum for sharing ideas and getting at the truth::Social media is an outrage machine, not a forum for sharing ideas and getting at the truth

  • morrowind@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    It’s amazing how much casually nicer lemmy and the greater fediverse is. You still see some bad habits leaking over from the rest of the web, but then people actually apologizing! and asking others to be nice! And it actually works!

    Well outside of some thorny political issues, but that’s just human nature.

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      11 months ago

      I mostly agree but with the caveat that it really depends on the topic and the community. Some communities handle (at least what seems like good faith!) disagreement far worse than others.

      Even if it’s not yelling at each other, downvotes are quickly becoming a “I disagree” button and not a “this comment provides no value” button. Not limited to politics either.

  • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    What happens on social media has nothing to do with free speech. If I can kick Nazis out of my bar , I can kick them off my website.

    And either way, a public square where violent fascists are attacking people and screaming over everyone with megaphones isn’t a place where anything important is being discussed anyway.

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      11 months ago

      And either way, a public square where violent fascists are attacking people and screaming over everyone with megaphones isn’t a place where anything important is being discussed anyway.

      Screaming over everyone with megaphones about how they’re not allowed to scream over everyone with megaphones, to a crowd that’s 50% mannequins that have been wired up to play pre-recorded cheering.

      Unfortunately, the discussion is important. Everybody hangs out in that public square which means everybody is forced to hear the megaphone Mein Kamph. It’s how the far-right procreate now

  • BreakDecks@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    The writer here seems confused. Free speech thrives online. There is no freer a place to speak than the Internet.

    What they seem to take issue with is that free speech isn’t always the path to truth. This was never a condition of free speech, and the lack of truth online doesn’t make the speech there any less free.

    In fact, free speech is the very force that allows people to lie with impunity. Maybe there would be more truth if speech were less free.

    • mark@programming.dev
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      11 months ago

      God I could kiss you. It’s so weird. People have been just saying what’s on their minds in chatrooms, forums, etc since the beginning of the internet, which was never scrutinized this much over being “factual”. They were just expressing themselves. But now all of sudden we need a PSA to stop it lol