You don’t need to be a fascist to make excuses for fascists, but it’s bizarre that you read my comment about all the apologists the decided “he just hasn’t heard my brilliant apologise yet”.
You can drop the “it could happen to you” act because it almost certainly won’t. For this site and those albums, “I just didn’t have time to unpick what the lyric ‘until every kike is dead’ meant” isn’t even a remotely plausible excuse.
Stop defending them.
Music is an extremely important part of my life but there isn’t a single band that would make me give money to neo-nazis.
I don’t know why everyone is so eager to absolve them. If they have something to say in their defense, they can say it themselves.
He got off lightly considering he did so “despite previous threats by his son to harm himself and loved ones”.
Of course it’s rare for “responsible gun owners” to be held accountable when a family member uses their unsecured firearm to kill as many people as they can, so being punished at all is a start.
I suspect for many of these parents, they’re just thrilled to see their right-wing opinions are blooming in their child.
It doesn’t need to be profitable, let alone have every fraction of a cent squeezed from it.
The mothers may not even have been alive and medical staff simply can’t evacuate premature babies and all the ICU equipment needed to keep them alive.
This story is absolutely going to be used as “look how inhuman and barbarous these Palestinians are, good thing we’re genociding them” and your comment is exactly what they’re looking for.
But the reality is that if you shoot and bomb civilians, then threaten to bomb the hospital they’re being treated at, this could happen anywhere in the world.
They weren’t leaving babies to die and rot 6 months ago because they weren’t being shelled and shot at and if they weren’t being shelled and shot at now, they wouldn’t have left those babies either.
They never genuinely cared about the quality of their police, they just needed something to blame besides “a weapon manufacturer that targets teenagers with their marketing was allowed to legally sell two semi-automatic rifles to someone with a history of death threats and animal abuse, who immediately used them for the standard domestic homicide/mass execution of children”.
Their crime was embarrassing gun owners, not failing to save children. Police were on the scene within minutes of the first gunshot at Sandy Hook and they breached the room a few minutes after that.
27 people were already dead, because it turns out that AR-15s can easily supply violence far in excess of what anyone could ever need for sport or self defense.
His mother was a “responsible gun owner”.
People start stabbing each other
Even giving you a free pass on that actually being true, stabbings are both easier to flee and less lethal. It would be a genuine improvement
Then you have to start trying to take all the knives. Then the clubs. Then bottles, and bricks, and hammers, and screwdrivers.
Isn’t it just fascinating that this slippery slope always starts at “guns”?
Somehow, it’s impossible to stop at “lets not sell guns to idiots and psychopaths” like sane people. Once we start down that road, we have to just keep banning more and more things forever, despite the fact none of those things are covered by the second amendment and could be banned right now if we actually wanted to.
You may as well be claiming “Driving under the influence? What next? Driving sober? Bikes? Horses? Legs?”.
You’re never going to be able to take all of the tools that people use to commit murder, because “bare hands” account for something like 5% of all homicides in the US
Meanwhile, guns account for 81% of those homicides because they’re more lethal, in less time, with less chance of escaping or being interrupted.
Most of the guns used in those homicides are legally purchased, but that’s mostly academic given that 99% of guns used in crimes were originally legally purchased from dealers, pawnbrokers or manufacturers, clearly demonstrating that the background checks and storage laws are not even remotely adequate.
You keep accidentally admitting how much better things would be if Americas had gun laws in line with the rest of the world, instead of pretending every murder is inevitable like you wanted.
Fix the underlying problems, and most of that violence–the violence that turns into murder–ends up going away on it’s own.
Sure. Let us know when you’re done building that utopia so we can look at actual crime stats that actually exist, rather than fantasy statistics that the pro-gun community insists will come true eventually.
Until then, why do you staunchly oppose measures designed to reduce the number of murderers armed with the tools you openly admit are best-in-class for murder?
You’re already projecting compassion he doesn’t have by assuming he’d wait for them to turn 18. If he thought it would work, he’d march 5 year olds in bomb vests over the border then have Elon announce that Ukraine kills children.
He’s just using abusive partner/parent tricks to manipulate people. I doubt they have any real basis in logic.
And to be logically consistent, do you also shame people for trying to remove things like child pornography, pornographic photos posted without consent or leaked personal details from the internet?
I consented to my post being federated and displayed on Lemmy.
Did writers and artists consent to having their work fed into a privately controlled system that didn’t exist when they made their post, so that it could make other people millions of dollars by ripping off their work?
The reality is that none of these models would be viable if they requested permission, paid for licensing or stuck to work that was clearly licensed.
Fortunately for women everywhere, nobody outside of AI arguments considers consent, once granted, to be both unrevokable and valid for any act for the rest of time.
The obsession with calling everyone “cucks” comes from the white supremacist scene that created the “alt-right”. It’s intended to mean “race traitor” more than it’s intended go kink shame.
Yeah it’s their fault for daring to communicate online without first considering a technology that didn’t exist.
Maybe that’s why most of the rest of the world doesn’t allow them have tools to easily kill people at a distance.
Most of it actually does – very few places have total bans on firearms, they just don’t let people buy semi-automatic weapons on a whim.
It’s gruelling to accurately explain what gun control is to every pro-gun dildo on social media that feels entitled to a personal explanation (that they’ll spit back in your face anyway).
But its important to remember that the pro-gun community isn’t fighting “no guns for anyone ever”, they’re fighting “you need to pass a background check, prove you know how to safely store and use a firearm and not hit your wife”
Sounds like a lie to me. Semi-automatic handguns are absolutely the fastest, most lethal and most common way to turn interpersonal disputes and property crimes into murder.
You can’t genuinely be looking to reduce these murders if you’re unwilling to change gun laws. It wouldn’t just require 100 years of work to solve inequality, it would require literal mind control.
Even if you pulled it off, there is still all the other motives you’re handwaving away, like domestic abusers and “responsible gun owners” answering their doorbells by opening fire.
Even giving you a free pass on “they’ll just do stabbings instead” (despite that not being true anywhere else in the world), that would still be a massive improvement over giving them semi-automatic weapons.
Stabbings are easier to flee, easier to disarm, slower and less lethal. If dogshit gun laws were scrapped after Columbine, easily half as many people would have been killed by domestic terrorists.
Then how have other wealthy countries avoided gun violence despite similar inequality and lack of affordable mental health services?
But arguing “cause vs symptom” is a waste of time anyway. Americas gun laws are demonstrably unsuitable for the state of American society today.
Gun laws that didn’t put profits and reactionary votes first would massively reduce the damage done by criminals, abusers and terrorists while people spent 50 more years arguing over the problem being Marilyn Manson, violent videogames or not having access to some magical mental healthcare system that can cure “I want to kill people”, even in people who don’t seek help.
The “illegal market” you left out implies they were legally owned to me.
Ultimately, it doesn’t matter, because it all flows from legal sales anyway. There is no magic gun fairy arming criminals by manifesting firearms out of thin air, only legal gun owners who refuse to responsibly secure their firearms.
A song with “suicidal lyrics” is not even remotely comparable to the albums this site sells, which is why they don’t need a dedicated pro-suicide website to sell them on.
Would you rush to defend an album put out by ISIS, that pushed the agenda of ISIS, with all profits going to ISIS?
Then maybe you should explain your exhaustion to the group responsible for their overwhelming majority of mass shootings, who openly celebrate the killing of black and LGBT+ people, rather than someone you’ve decided isn’t appropriately sad that neo-nazis got exposed for doing a thing they did.