• phx@lemmy.ca
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    10 months ago

    This seems more about repair notifications target than the repairs themselves. Personally, so long as the technicians in the shop aren’t locked out by proprietary controls from diagnostics on-site, I couldn’t give a damn if the dealership is getting the wireless “notifications” or not.

    My dealership tells us about lots of things we “need done”. I take the vehicle to a trusted mechanic who either does the work or tells me when they’re full of shit

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    10 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Nathan White, CitySide’s general manager, said his staff warns car shoppers that features like those requiring wireless transmission don’t work on new Subaru models sold in the state.

    Subaru crippled its technology over a state law intended to let people share their car’s wireless repair information with any service shop — not only the authorized dealer.

    The Massachusetts law, and a similar one that Maine voters approved in a landslide this week, show our desire to influence what happens to the reams of data our cars collect.

    The Massachusetts and Maine laws could let a car owner send an in-dash warning about worn brake pads to a service shop of her choice to schedule repairs.

    Joshua Siegel, a Michigan State University engineering professor, said this isn’t a simple task and that car manufacturers are doing a reasonable job in trying to comply with the spirit of a first-of-its-kind law in Massachusetts.

    At CitySide Subaru, White hopes that automakers find a way to let car owners provide remote vehicle maintenance data to any service shop.


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  • ominouslemon@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    Friendly reminder: Mozilla studied 25 car brands and NONE of them passed the privacy test. Mozilla even said that cars are “privacy nightmares”.

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      10 months ago

      I mean this is gotta be on the newest Internet connected cars right? Cause like aint no way my 2017 ford focus has that many “privacy issues” it doesn’t even have android auto lol.

  • danhab99@programming.dev
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    10 months ago

    Unpopular opinion.

    I’d like to have the choice not to “own” these kinds of things. I’ve felt this since I was young and I heard about the 3rd version of the iPhone. If these things get upgraded and get better every year and I’m “supposed to” upgrade every single time then it makes sense to just lease these things.

    And now with electric cars being basically on the same upgrade schedule but half the speed, why would I own an electric car for 8 years when next year the new electric cars save like 10x more for me. It wouldn’t make sense.

    Phones get an upgrade every year, and in 3 years your phone might become ‘invalid’ and you have to upgrade. So just borrow the phone from the maker and get an upgrade easier.

    Unless you actually want to own your things, go for it! It’s a free market and you should be able to buy your phone in its entirety just like you could buy a car 10 years ago in its entirety. This choice should be easier is all I’m saying.

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      10 months ago

      You’re not “supposed to” upgrade every year, that’s the point. You should be able to use a 5 year old phone if you want to.

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      10 months ago

      We already have a strong lease market in many places and that works great for many people. The issue for me is not the availability of leasing, but the asssumption that my purchase of a vehicle nonetheless entitles the manufacturer to collect massive amounts of data on my in-car habits without my knowledge, which they can then provide to anyone they damn well please.

      Even leasing, I doubt anyone expects to have thier call logs and texts stored for law enforcement’s later use, bug there was a story recently suggesting that some of them are actually doing that.

    • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      I agree a rental/service economy is good for some things. I think the main complaint here is the way companies manipulate these products for their benefit not for the customer, and often in underhand ways (hence all the privacy issues). That happens with ‘owned’ products too, but the owner has more control to make of it what they want.