I have an issue in general with scifi totally ignoring the existence of bicycles, but star trek is particularly fun to think about since in so many situations beaming down in an away team with electric mountain bicycles would be incredibly useful in a basic utilitarian sense. Like shuttles, bicycles could be treated as disposable if needed, you can always replicate more right?

You also don’t need to build up any infrastructure on a planet for bicycles to function as transit system for huge amounts of people. A starship could arrive into a humanitarian aid situation, quickly adjust a bicycle blueprint for whatever bipedal humanoid lived on the planet, replicate a metric sh*&ton of alien bicycles and beam them down to the planet on mass. It wouldn’t require longterm maintenance, lengthy training of local aliens on how to use, or return visits to resupply complex parts. A starship could drop bicycles, spare parts and maintenance gear and then leave and the citizens of that planet would be able to benefit from that for… decades? Even more? I am sure the instruction manuals would get super long with all the alien languages though…

Even if bicycles weren’t being used as tools or transportation in a far future like star trek, there is no reason humans would stop wanting to bicycle recreationally or for exercise. Also you could go on crazy mountain biking rides on the holodeck right? I can’t see how people wouldn’t be doing that all the time along with skiing, surfing and other sports that are scary but exhilarating. Further, I think it is likely most bipedal aliens would have discovered bicycles at some point along the development into advanced technological civilizations. It would be really weird if only humans discovered them.

TNG in particular is egregious for not having bicycles since the NCC-1701 is so cavernous that unless you always used the turbolifts you probably are going to need a bicycle to get anywhere quickly…

What do yall think? Should star trek have more bicycles?

  • Seraph@kbin.social
    81·
    1 year ago

    Wheeled transit when flight or hovering is so easy is just plain clumsy.

    There’s not a lot of cars either, outside of episodes set in the past.

    • porthos@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
      92·
      1 year ago

      I mean once you have flight/hovering vehicles than practically the only transportation that doesn’t make obsolete is a bicycle for transporting someone a mile or two daily from their spaceship to a residence or wherever.

      How is using a bicycle clumsy? I mean I get if people don’t like bicycles but honestly a bicycle is just fun to cruise around on, they are the opposite of clumsy.

      • Seraph@kbin.social
        61·
        1 year ago

        It needs relatively flat terrain. Even mountain bikes need trails. Off the trail they’re not fun to ride, though a wash will do in a pinch.

        • porthos@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
          61·
          1 year ago

          Bicycles don’t necessarily need flat terrain, especially with electric bikes that have futuristic insanely efficient batteries.

          Yes bicycles do best on trails but anywhere that has humanoids is going to have trails. Anywhere that has any kind of large animal is going to probably have some degree of path system as well. I don’t think it’s that big of an issue compared to any other kind of ground vehicle.

          • chaogomu@kbin.social
            112·
            1 year ago

            You sound like someone who has never ridden a bike through broken terrain.

            I’ll argue that the “flat” used by the comment above might be better taken on a more granular level. You can go up and down mountains just fine so long as there are no logs, large rocks, pits, or gullies that are in the way.

            I was doing some D&D world building a while back and wanted to really dive into transportation of people/goods and found the same problem. Tenser’s Floating Disk is a very low level wizard spell that basically does away with all but the heaviest ships and carts.

            It’s the same for the trek universe. They have personal transportation methods that mean there’s literally zero need for a bicycle for anything other than recreation.

            Hell, Lower Decks opens with Mariner pushing around a hover cart full of stuff. It’s literally the cold open of the entire series.

            If you can have a hover cart like that, then why bother with a bike? Need to move stuff to a remote area? Get the hover cart, you don’t need to cut a trail, just go over the obstacles. And that’s if the transporter doesn’t work if the first place to beam the people and equipment to a nearby area.

            • porthos@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
              3·
              1 year ago

              I was doing some D&D world building a while back and wanted to really dive into transportation of people/goods and found the same problem. Tenser’s Floating Disk is a very low level wizard spell that basically does away with all but the heaviest ships and carts. It’s the same for the trek universe. They have personal transportation methods that mean there’s literally zero need for a bicycle for anything other than recreation.

              I mean, its all just “magic” at a certain point, they could do everything with a transporter… but they dont so presumably there are reasons not to (even though the real reason is it is a tv show). I have never seen hovercarts used prominently in the live action shows, especially not as a vehicle.

          • Damage@feddit.itEnglish
            3·
            1 year ago

            Cycling on rough trails can be exhausting, and requires regular training, riding completely off road is more difficult, if even possible.

            The starfleet academy grounds should be littered with bycicles though.

      • Corgana@startrek.websiteEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        I agree, in my utopian future it’s possible to leisurely bike everywhere. Why hurry anywhere in a post-scarcity society when you can cruise around and take in the scenery?

        • porthos@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          It would be a matter of public health policy that people had some kind of access to a short, physical commute to whatever place they worked/spent their day at, right? That is at least how I rationalize why they just don’t teleport people everywhere. They COULD technically teleport everywhere all the time… but the mental and physical health consequences to not getting some kind of mild daily exercise like bicycling are too intense (also having some kind of short, stress free commute helps one get into the mindset of work anyways).