• SCB@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    while Taylor Swift flies her private jet to Italy to get a gelato.

    That would have a negligible impact on climate change

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      10 months ago

      Almost everyone has a negligible impact when taken individually, that’s no excuse. Flying is terrible, private jets even more so.

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        10 months ago

        All human air traffic combined is 2% of emissions. A private jet is not a big deal.

        Calling out private jets from rich people is a conservative tactic to make wealthy people who advocate for climate policy look like hypocrites. It’s a nonsensical position that was never intended to be thought through. It’s a kneejerk slogan for the boomer hordes.

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          But it’s actually a problem. It measures whole percentage points, it’s not a rounding error.

          Dismissing an issue or person because conservatives are also using it as a punching bag doesn’t remove the problem, it just lets the conservatives control the narrative. I don’t think participating in that polarizing behavior is good or useful.

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        10 months ago

        Everyone has a negligible impact as an individual, yes.

        But people act as groups, responding to the incentives given to them. There’s a reason why the average person in Houston drives a lot more than the average person in Amsterdam. It’s because Houston has the widest freeway in the world and is very car-oriented, and Amsterdam has world-class bike infrastructure and is very walkable and transitable. It’s not because Amsterdam is filled with virtuous environmentalists while Houston is filled with evil people who hate the planet.

        And as groups, people add up. In the US, 58% of transportation emissions are from cars, SUVs and pickups, while only 2% are from non- commercial planes. On the personal level, private jets are terrible. Added up to a societal level, they’re a tiny part of the problem, while cars are a giant part of the problem.

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          There are billions of us, we can look at more than one angle at a time. If we can’t all help on the issue du jour we should just pack it in?

          Or let’s talk about how that air travel metric is likely bullshit. We barely do full lifecycle emissions for cars, do you think that metric did that for planes? Their tires? Their mandatory retirement duty cycle for all kinds of components up to their frames? They aren’t expensive as hell for the prestige of it.