Yeah, it was a massive coup for Microsoft. As people are pointing out, MS has been falling behind in consumer spaces for a while now. Investing early and obtaining a substantial edge in AI would help bolster their position in coming years across all markets.
They moved in and invested in OpenAI the way they did because of this. And then all of a sudden Altman and a bunch of top researchers leave all at the same time? The most Microsoft thing they could have done is exactly what they did: swoop him up and promise him the moon (in this case, the promise is clearly that they’ll give him a lot of latitude so he doesn’t feel too much like he lost out by not forming his own company – they even said something around this in their press release) to get him on their side and his name on paperwork before he has a chance to seriously reconsider.
Altman probably thinks he got one over on OpenAI, but really, Microsoft got one over on him and OpenAI.
Microsoft plays these games all the time. They raid startups and accumulate all the IP and talent for themselves. It often involves a leveraged buyout, but if the company has an internal fight and their darling CEO takes most of the top talent with him, and MS owns a 49% stake in the victim company in question, swooping the CEO and all the top talent is a great way to start driving the price down on any leftover IP/talent left at OpenAI they might be interested in. They just sabotage the company until it collapses then they offer a “fair price”
Basically, if you look at MS’s history with founders and startups, you’d have to be either a complete idiot, or really hurting and in a very emotional place (come on, the board stabbed him in the back and tried to get rid of him like he was an incompetent middle manager, they even tried to do it on a Friday like he was some clerk) to think Microsoft’s offer isn’t just a ploy to grab up all your IP and talent, and that once you’ve helped them get all your top researchers, you’ll have any independence or ability to do anything other than be a cog in Microsoft’s machine.
Just because Altman’s a human who is able to be manipulated by a big, evil corporation with an infamous track record for manipulating people like him doesn’t make him an “idiot,” it makes him a human being. What are you, a Vulcan?
As far as we know Microsoft has access to some of their IP but not much else. Judging by the output of their own research division they’re anxious to replace them.
Isn’t Bing in some kind of partnership with Open AI?
Hmmm.
Yeah, it was a massive coup for Microsoft. As people are pointing out, MS has been falling behind in consumer spaces for a while now. Investing early and obtaining a substantial edge in AI would help bolster their position in coming years across all markets.
They moved in and invested in OpenAI the way they did because of this. And then all of a sudden Altman and a bunch of top researchers leave all at the same time? The most Microsoft thing they could have done is exactly what they did: swoop him up and promise him the moon (in this case, the promise is clearly that they’ll give him a lot of latitude so he doesn’t feel too much like he lost out by not forming his own company – they even said something around this in their press release) to get him on their side and his name on paperwork before he has a chance to seriously reconsider.
Altman probably thinks he got one over on OpenAI, but really, Microsoft got one over on him and OpenAI.
That’s treating him like an idiot, he might know what Microsoft is thinking and maybe he has no problem going along with it
Microsoft plays these games all the time. They raid startups and accumulate all the IP and talent for themselves. It often involves a leveraged buyout, but if the company has an internal fight and their darling CEO takes most of the top talent with him, and MS owns a 49% stake in the
victimcompany in question, swooping the CEO and all the top talent is a great way to start driving the price down on any leftover IP/talent left at OpenAI they might be interested in. They just sabotage the company until it collapses then they offer a “fair price”Basically, if you look at MS’s history with founders and startups, you’d have to be either a complete idiot, or really hurting and in a very emotional place (come on, the board stabbed him in the back and tried to get rid of him like he was an incompetent middle manager, they even tried to do it on a Friday like he was some clerk) to think Microsoft’s offer isn’t just a ploy to grab up all your IP and talent, and that once you’ve helped them get all your top researchers, you’ll have any independence or ability to do anything other than be a cog in Microsoft’s machine.
Just because Altman’s a human who is able to be manipulated by a big, evil corporation with an infamous track record for manipulating people like him doesn’t make him an “idiot,” it makes him a human being. What are you, a Vulcan?
It does and Microsoft poured a ton of money into OpenAI. Including offering some of their services exclusively via Azure.
From what I’ve read they didn’t pour any money directly, it’s all in the form of credit to use azure
Microsoft owns 49% of the for-profit operating company. Maybe they got those or part of those via Azure credits?
That’s exactly what I read
As far as we know Microsoft has access to some of their IP but not much else. Judging by the output of their own research division they’re anxious to replace them.
They have access to the IP and own the compute resources running OpenAI’s services.