• wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
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    10 months ago

    Right, the governments with financial incentive to agree with china agreed with china

    I bet you think america is telling the truth about checking israels self reported war crime statistics too, huh?

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      10 months ago

      Those countries also have economic and otherwise incentive to agree with the world hegemon, the US.

      The anglophone corporate media that is pushing out the atrocity propaganda (well, was, China reopening put a real damper on their stories) also has financial incentive to produce propaganda about the main rival of the US.

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        10 months ago

        Or an economic incentive to agree with china, the major world power challenging the US on its position on the world stage. In fact, even more incentive to side with china over the US, as those specific nations all have multiple direct monetary conflicts with US enterprise and military pursuits. Pursuits they would gladly like to take over, and have reason to do business with whomever sides with them over the US on said enterprises.

        Youre being played, and letting people die because of it. Just like whats happening in gaza.

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          Youre being played, and letting people die because of it.

          Even the worse claims say that the “repression” is over, and have never included mass murder, so I dont know what you’re on about.

          I guess I should ask, why do you have faith in US affiliated media reporting on this, considering that the US has a vested interest in destabilizing China, and obviously cares very little for the lives of Muslims?

          Also, just look at it from a historical basis. Has any anti-terrorism program that revolved around repression ever worked, and not just created more terrorism? Does China have a reality altering device that lets them do repression without creating more terrorism, or have you been lied to, given that terrorism has precipitously declined as China has invested in their counterterrorism program primarily based around improving the material conditions in the region?

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            The same applies to you? Why do you have faith in chinese affiliated media, who has a vested interest in usurping US footholds and making deals with chinese markets?

            Dont act like china doesnt have a history of repression like every other major world power. China isnt special, or new. They arent your friend, theyre the next US. They dont care that some historians say it doesnt work, the same argument applies to the japanese concentration camps in the US during WW2.

            Its embarassing to watch you, in the same paragraph, try and mock trusting 1 faceless monoliths propaganda while unquestionably parroting anothers. Calling a historically suppressed minority a terrorist population? Fucking shame on you.

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              The same applies to you? Why do you have faith in chinese affiliated media, who has a vested interest in usurping US footholds and making deals with chinese markets?

              Why do you think I primarily rely on Chinese media? I primarily rely on looking at US media through a critical lense oriented around Marxism and anti-colonial theory. I also talk to Chinese exchange students about their experiences in China.

              Dont act like china doesnt have a history of repression like every other major world power. China isnt special, or new.

              I’m not arguing that, but that is not an equivalent claim to the claim you are making. You are making much worse claims.

              They arent your friend, theyre the next US.

              Nah this is just enlightened centrism. China is of course a state and states do repression but they are significantly less economically exploitative than the US. They are also exceeding their climate goals while the US lags behind.

              They dont care that some historians say it doesnt work, the same argument applies to the japanese concentration camps in the US during WW2.

              They aren’t doing concentration camps though, because if they were, we would see violent resistance increasing. This has always historically been the case. You must learn from history or you’ll believe anything.

              Its embarassing to watch you, in the same paragraph, try and mock trusting 1 faceless monoliths propaganda while unquestionably parroting anothers.

              I’m not parroting their propaganda. Their propaganda paints a much rosier picture about it. Things are not great but the way they have dealt with extremism has respected their culture, even though there are cases of nonsystemic abuse and their methods toe the line on what we would consider acceptable standards of evidence. (Although detaining someone in school is different than detaining someone in a labor camp like the US does to its prisoners, and the standard of evidence that the US uses also often falls behind our acceptable standard of evidence)

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                “Governments arent your friend, and china trying to replace the US doesnt make them better than the US.”

                “EnLiGtEnEd CeNtRiSm!!1!”

                Fuck what a dumbass. This isnt a sport team. Youre so deep in your us v them mentality that you are parroting US propaganda too. Get help dude