• grte@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    That Israel built the bunker that they are claiming justifies them bombing the hospital it was under looks really bad for Israel. Why would he lie about that?

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        No, he’s saying Israel built it for Israel’s purposes. He’s claiming that Hamas has been using it (presumably since Israel pulled out of Gaza in '05). But Israel using structures it built as casus belli to blow up a hospital looks really bad on Israel’s part.

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          I think any reason to blow up a hospital makes Israel look bad, but if I misunderstood what he meant, fair enough.

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            The justification is that Hamas uses hospitals for their purposes and they have bunkers and tunnels there. Why would it matter who build the bunkers? IDF is trying to destroy Hamas who uses hospital (with bunkers). Per this article the bunkers were built for hospital medical use.

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              Per this article the bunkers were built for hospital medical use.

              I’m sure Israel would love people to think they built bunkers under a hospital for medical use.

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                Why else would they build them? This was before Hamas came to power, when Israel was occupying Gaza permanently.

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                  To store munitions? That’s what bunkers are for. Or do you think Israel wouldn’t store munitions in Gaza?

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                    No, bunkers are actually for people to survive airstrikes and shelling. It even makes sense having one near a hospital, because sick people can’t go fast when the sirens go off. Usually responsible governments build bunkers for their citizens when there is a chance of war. Military sometimes has command bunkers, but they are not for and not near civillians.

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                    Why would they do it under hospital? I understand the ugly logic of Hamas doing this, but Israel would not make any sense. There was no reporting of them doing that, ever.

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                Unfortunately, I trust Hamas even less. However, there was an interview of a doctor who worked at this hospital, who did confirm that Hamas was using it.

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                  @MxM111 @jeena @FlyingSquid @grte The question is was the doctor under duress by Israeli forces? It’s not like Israel plays it straight, or has any reason to. Israel has used human shields, Israel has attacked and is currently attacking Palestinians in the West B. ank where Hamas isn’t, Israel even violated the ceasefire first. So let’s not pretend that they are an honest broker, because they aren’t

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                    Was than Hamas? The one whose goal is to “run Jews to the sea”? The one who started all this by purportedly killing civilians? Really?

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            I mean, in Barak’s mind he’s probably attempting to justify the bombing. In a sane person’s eyes it looks really bad.

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              Maybe that’s the problem. The so-called justification just went over my head. Because it’s fucking nuts. How many innocent people who were in need of hospital care did they kill? Including children? And then claim it’s because Hamas uses human shields…

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          It’s obvious that hamas was hiding there. I am not even mentioning how incorrect it is that Israel does genocide.