• LordR@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    Reason number 1: You don’t want to live in a hellish dictatorship.

    You have two options here: vote for an old guy who did some good stuff or actively or passively vote for fascism.

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      10 months ago

      Yeah, but he’s old, and he’s not the purity pony that I wanted!!!

      So…both sides are just as bad! Let it burn!

      /s

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        10 months ago

        Then vote for people who think the same or if you live in a state that allows the population to introduce laws start that process.

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        10 months ago

        You do realise that if more people would have voted for democrats, student loan loan forgivness would have been granted?

        But yeah, a society without any social safety net, without rights for minorities, with a stupid state religion and 1000 other horrible things is just as bad as people who in the best case change things and worst case don’t make the US worse.

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          10 months ago

          You do realise that if more people would have voted for democrats, student loan loan forgivness would have been granted?

          Oh come on. They would do what they always fucking do. They’d find just enough no votes.

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            10 months ago

            Then vote them out in the next primaries or unionize and strike. You have more power than you think.

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          10 months ago

          if more people would have voted for democrats, student loan loan forgivness would have been granted

          you can’t prove that.

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            10 months ago

            No I can’t. But you can’t prove that they wouldn’t either.

            With more democrats DC could be a state for example (Biden approves of that), abortian access could be written in law and student loans could be partially forgiven.
            But unless you vote, we will never know.

            What I know is that Biden DID something about student loans though. For example there is a new repayment plan that does not allow any interest and therefore allows to actually pay off your student loans.
            But yeah, that’s probably norhing acording to you.

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          10 months ago

          Shit, if more people voted in the primaries Bernie would have had a stronger hand to negotiate policy if not having been the nominee either time.

          But these fucksticks have the gall to wonder why people who aren’t them are not voting the way they would for them.

          Millennials and Gen Z could be dominating the primary process and yet underperform their share of the overall population, let alone the share they could easily take up in the democratic party if they didn’t have to be dragged kicking and screaming to mark some squares on a ballot.

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        10 months ago

        It will be so much worse under fascism. You might not be wild about Biden but if the alternative is fascism…when you say let it burn, that means a lot - and I mean a lot - of people will be harmed, most likely including you.

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            10 months ago

            Ever heard of Hitler or Mussolini? You should read up on them and then consider your words again.

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                10 months ago

                Oh boy! What kind of stuff did you take to think that Biden is comparable to a treacherous mass-murderer with a god complex?

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        10 months ago

        Not getting student loan relief is a maintaining of the status quo, not a “hellish dictatorship”. In fact, having the Congress and Courts strike down student loan relief is the POLAR OPPOSITE of a dictatorship.

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            10 months ago

            A lot of it isn’t what people are smart enough to do, lots of people get tricked into loans they can’t pay back.

            When our kid went to college, 3 separate schools wanted us taking out loans of $56,000 a year… $224,000 for a 4 year degree…

            We told them “Yeah, no…” and enrolled him at a state school for $10K a year, where he had a $5k per year scholarship. I paid the remaining $5K cash.

            But I could see other parents, after getting 3 schools telling them the same oddly specific number “Well, I guess that’s what school costs!”