I mean the amount Injuries players are getting not just at United but other teams as well. Surely there is enough evidence out there footballers play too much.
But this is what capitalism does to a product, its squeezing as much money as they can out of product while the quality collapses.
Going to get even worse with the expanded champions league and club World Cup too. All the PL teams in Europe, plus Chelsea and Tottenham are already so injury hit and we’ve not even got to the busy part of the season
Literally all of the major tournaments are getting bigger. Next Champions League is bigger, next Euros is bigger, next World Cup is bigger, next Club World Cup is bigger. This is only going to get worse for the players.
its squeezing as much money as they can out of product while the quality collapses.
Not really, there are better ways to make money from football than more games. Just look at american football. They play 17 games once a week. And its the most commercialised sport in the world.
There are ways to make stupid amounts of money without running the players into the ground.
But either way fans get fucked. Either through paying more for TV for more games or through a worse experience with mid game ads
Every team in the Championship plays 48 games, every team in League 1 and League 2 plays 51 if they get knocked out of every cup at the first possible opportunity and don’t make the promotion playoffs.
When you have so many players getting injured, especially young players, there is no point talking about money, it could hinder football quality for a whole generation.
It’s a bit ironical, considering how much we fans are against this concept, but a super league could actually be better for the players. With the clubs being owners of the league they’d be able to dictate how many games there would be. Right now they’re part of 3-4 different competitions that all want the teams to play as many games as possible for their competition.
I’m actually really surprised to see anti-capitalist sentiment on a subreddit as big as r/soccer.
I was thinking today about how we Manchester United fans complain about how bad our ownership is and how we have absolutely zero say over who gets to be in charge of the club we love.
Which got me wondering what a socialist ownership of a football club would look like. Usually it would mean complete employee ownership of the club meaning the staff would have a say in any decisions made, but for a football club, it’s just as important to invlove the fans.
I know the Bundesliga has the 50+1 rule but I view that more as a concession by the capitalists rather than an out-and-out socialist model of ownership.
I genuinely thought this sub was full of liberals so I’m glad I can get this thought out of my head without (hopefully) getting downvoted to fuck.
I mean the amount Injuries players are getting not just at United but other teams as well. Surely there is enough evidence out there footballers play too much.
But this is what capitalism does to a product, its squeezing as much money as they can out of product while the quality collapses.
Going to get even worse with the expanded champions league and club World Cup too. All the PL teams in Europe, plus Chelsea and Tottenham are already so injury hit and we’ve not even got to the busy part of the season
Literally all of the major tournaments are getting bigger. Next Champions League is bigger, next Euros is bigger, next World Cup is bigger, next Club World Cup is bigger. This is only going to get worse for the players.
Not really, there are better ways to make money from football than more games. Just look at american football. They play 17 games once a week. And its the most commercialised sport in the world.
There are ways to make stupid amounts of money without running the players into the ground.
But either way fans get fucked. Either through paying more for TV for more games or through a worse experience with mid game ads
NFL squads are literally 100 players.
Eh only the best of best are playing too much. And they get compensated more, waaayyyy more than enough for that.
Every team in the Championship plays 48 games, every team in League 1 and League 2 plays 51 if they get knocked out of every cup at the first possible opportunity and don’t make the promotion playoffs.
When you have so many players getting injured, especially young players, there is no point talking about money, it could hinder football quality for a whole generation.
Not really trye, teams in league 2 for example play a shit ton of games every season.
It’s a bit ironical, considering how much we fans are against this concept, but a super league could actually be better for the players. With the clubs being owners of the league they’d be able to dictate how many games there would be. Right now they’re part of 3-4 different competitions that all want the teams to play as many games as possible for their competition.
They should just rotate more. It’s in their interest to avoid overworking the players too
They all know it’s a problem but hope to kick the can down the road and let someone else fix it.
Managers would happily risk ruining a player’s career by running him into the ground if it meant winning titles this season.
I see it as more likely that instead of having less games we reduce the amount of matches each player takes part in.
So we for example set a cap of 50 games per player and they can’t play more than 6 times in a month.
Perhaps even limits on minutes for players returning from injury.
I’m actually really surprised to see anti-capitalist sentiment on a subreddit as big as r/soccer.
I was thinking today about how we Manchester United fans complain about how bad our ownership is and how we have absolutely zero say over who gets to be in charge of the club we love.
Which got me wondering what a socialist ownership of a football club would look like. Usually it would mean complete employee ownership of the club meaning the staff would have a say in any decisions made, but for a football club, it’s just as important to invlove the fans.
I know the Bundesliga has the 50+1 rule but I view that more as a concession by the capitalists rather than an out-and-out socialist model of ownership.
I genuinely thought this sub was full of liberals so I’m glad I can get this thought out of my head without (hopefully) getting downvoted to fuck.