• frezik@midwest.social
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    9 months ago

    Nah, nobody cares about their monopoly anymore. They got outmaneuvered on mobile, and they’re stuck being a desktop OS while the rest of the market moves around them.

    Happens a lot with monopolies. IBM was the biggest name in mainframes, but their PC division made a standard that other companies would take and run.

    Microsoft wouldn’t have put as much effort into WSL if it was just performative.

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      9 months ago

      Did IBM really invent the OSI model on their own? I thought the IEEE standardized that with help from programmers all over the industry?

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        9 months ago

        Hmm? I wasn’t talking about OSI.

        If you’re thinking BIOS, that was originally IBM proprietary stuff.

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          Actually, it’s not that silly, TCP/IP is built on that model, so are many other protocols. Though yes, it can be done better.

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            TCP/IP does not have a concept of Presentation or Session. Everything above it is just “Application”, which is more sensible. There isn’t much criticism to be had of layer 4 down, but when they got to layer 5 and 6, they were telecom people sticking their nose in software architecture. You can write networked applications with those layers if you like. I’ve seen it done, and it’s fine. There are also plenty of other ways to architect it that also work just fine.

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              There isn’t much criticism to be had of layer 4 down, but when they got to layer 5 and 6, they were telecom people sticking their nose in software architecture.

              That is true.

              But, you have to understand, back when OSI was made, the only thing which could benefit from it was telecom and banking… there were no PCs as we know them today. It’s no surprise that OSI caters mostly to telecom software and needs.

              And you could always just use the model up until layer 4, it’s pretty good up until layer 4, and just do whatever you like after that… if you’re developing your own protocol for something that is.

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      9 months ago

      Still, everything enterprise related or video/audio revolves around them (and Macs of course). That is one of their biggest assets now, as well as the “a perscription OS” spin they’re trying to pull on Windows. Also, their subscription services, people that do all sorts of businesses use them a lot.