I love how everyone here are just saying to pirate. I wonder if someone made one streaming platform to rule them all. I’m talking no ads, no missing parts, no extra fees, no shitty quality streams. Would people still pirate, as they just bearly reached what piracy offers, or would ppl just be happy that they can pay and then actually watch shows?
yeap steam is the best example of a service i’d very happily pay - I’ve paid LOTS to them and just last month, I downloaded “have a nice death” for yuzu, played 30", loved it and insta bought it on steam. It was 25 euros but having my saves forever and being able to single click install & play is something that I value more.
you don’t get to get my money AND fuck me, pick one (netflix, youtube, etc.)
You are not wrong, but in case of videogames, it’s not that annoying to have another free app installed. In contrast to streaming where you pay another full price monthly.
My question, though: Is the annoyance in the many price tags, or the total price?
Because I imagine if Netflix or NetflixLike had gone their (and the streaming community’s) wish of making every show ever available on one universal app, then I doubt they’d still charge $10 a month for it. They’d have cornered the market for all entertainment; $30 would be an absolute minimum for the lowest ad supported tier.
Am I unique in feeling I won’t find every single show interesting, and I’m only going to subscribe to the services I know I might reasonably watch in a month? I’m trying to understand what solution people wanted, even if that’s “Everything, everywhere, all the time, for $10 a month”.
Netflix used to be that and everyone bought the hell out of it. Then it enshittened and all the shows moved to proprietary platforms and now you need 19 subscriptions to get a selection of shows you care about. No thanks.
There are powerful lessons to be learned from the successes of Steam and Spotify if only the relevant people look and listen.
tbf, they’d prefer to be that as you described. What happened was many publishers decided they’d make their own deal, and pulled their contracts. Still the same disappointing situation thanks to greed, but it wasn’t really Netflix’s fault.
There will always be pirates, for some the act itself is a kind of hobby and part of their identity, but I think we can see in the reaction to some current and past, pre-inshitification, services thatt here is a legitimate point where many, if not a majority, would be happy to pay for a worthy service to support the media they enjoy and avoid some of the acquisition and self hosting hassle of pirating.
For games, I still pirate them for a couple of reasons, one of them being monetary. However, if the game is good, I buy the game afterwards to support the developers, and if it’s bad, they won’t see a dime from me. I might be a pirate, but I have honor.
i would gladly pay for that. the only reason i’m not streaming is the inconsistency of it all. and to watch all of the stuff i want to watch, that would be 60€+ a month. plus the godawful UI. but i’m not entitled to complain, i use jellyfin.
Would people still pirate, as they just bearly reached what piracy offers, or would ppl just be happy that they can pay and then actually watch shows?
It’s not an either or thing. No matter what, some people will pirate. No matter what, some people will choose to pay. Those aren’t even mutually exclusive, some people will pirate and pay.
You are right, not even arguing this. But I ment like the ratio then. Caz I feel like it’d make more people pay, but you can’t unteach the masses of how easy it is to pirate, so the damage might be permanent.
When there was basically only Netflix I paid for it and almost completely stopped pirating. Now I have acces to Netflix, Disney, prime(Disney and prime by password sharing) and I again started pirating years ago.
I for sure pay €20 for one service with almost everything, no ads and decent quality. Then I again stop pirating
I love how everyone here are just saying to pirate. I wonder if someone made one streaming platform to rule them all. I’m talking no ads, no missing parts, no extra fees, no shitty quality streams. Would people still pirate, as they just bearly reached what piracy offers, or would ppl just be happy that they can pay and then actually watch shows?
Steam made buying games and making them run on Linux so easy I no longer pirate games. So yes I probably would
yeap steam is the best example of a service i’d very happily pay - I’ve paid LOTS to them and just last month, I downloaded “have a nice death” for yuzu, played 30", loved it and insta bought it on steam. It was 25 euros but having my saves forever and being able to single click install & play is something that I value more.
you don’t get to get my money AND fuck me, pick one (netflix, youtube, etc.)
But Steam doesn’t have everything - because there are holdout publishers that feel they can profit more with their own version.
Oh, look, that’s exactly what happens with streaming, and yet people still use it as an excuse.
You are not wrong, but in case of videogames, it’s not that annoying to have another free app installed. In contrast to streaming where you pay another full price monthly.
My question, though: Is the annoyance in the many price tags, or the total price?
Because I imagine if Netflix or NetflixLike had gone their (and the streaming community’s) wish of making every show ever available on one universal app, then I doubt they’d still charge $10 a month for it. They’d have cornered the market for all entertainment; $30 would be an absolute minimum for the lowest ad supported tier.
Am I unique in feeling I won’t find every single show interesting, and I’m only going to subscribe to the services I know I might reasonably watch in a month? I’m trying to understand what solution people wanted, even if that’s “Everything, everywhere, all the time, for $10 a month”.
Netflix used to be that and everyone bought the hell out of it. Then it enshittened and all the shows moved to proprietary platforms and now you need 19 subscriptions to get a selection of shows you care about. No thanks.
There are powerful lessons to be learned from the successes of Steam and Spotify if only the relevant people look and listen.
tbf, they’d prefer to be that as you described. What happened was many publishers decided they’d make their own deal, and pulled their contracts. Still the same disappointing situation thanks to greed, but it wasn’t really Netflix’s fault.
Please dont tell people to learn from Spotify
There will always be pirates, for some the act itself is a kind of hobby and part of their identity, but I think we can see in the reaction to some current and past, pre-inshitification, services thatt here is a legitimate point where many, if not a majority, would be happy to pay for a worthy service to support the media they enjoy and avoid some of the acquisition and self hosting hassle of pirating.
For games, I still pirate them for a couple of reasons, one of them being monetary. However, if the game is good, I buy the game afterwards to support the developers, and if it’s bad, they won’t see a dime from me. I might be a pirate, but I have honor.
Same, except when it’s a cheap indie
i would gladly pay for that. the only reason i’m not streaming is the inconsistency of it all. and to watch all of the stuff i want to watch, that would be 60€+ a month. plus the godawful UI. but i’m not entitled to complain, i use jellyfin.
It’s not an either or thing. No matter what, some people will pirate. No matter what, some people will choose to pay. Those aren’t even mutually exclusive, some people will pirate and pay.
You are right, not even arguing this. But I ment like the ratio then. Caz I feel like it’d make more people pay, but you can’t unteach the masses of how easy it is to pirate, so the damage might be permanent.
When there was basically only Netflix I paid for it and almost completely stopped pirating. Now I have acces to Netflix, Disney, prime(Disney and prime by password sharing) and I again started pirating years ago.
I for sure pay €20 for one service with almost everything, no ads and decent quality. Then I again stop pirating