They didn’t accomplish their main goals or any research they said they’d do. But because it continued to orbit for longer than the mission (that failed) would have taken… They celebrate as a success and “proof” that theyre a world power.
I really don’t think you meant to, but this is exactly what I was talking about.
TFA says India was the first nation to achieve Mars orbit on the first attempt. Standing on the shoulders of giants, and all, but still… that’s surely an exceptional feat?
Is it better to set the bar high and fail to achieve every goal, or set the bar low and achieve less, but be able to claim 100% success?
I dunno, man… I kinda feel like putting something in Mars orbit on your first try deserves some respect and recognition.
TFA says India was the first nation to achieve Mars orbit on the first attempt
It’s not a question of if anyone could tho, it’s a question of why would anyone waste all that money for basically just PR…
To my knowledge no one has taken money from their starving citizens so they can light a billion dollars on fire. I still wouldn’t be impressed if someone did it, even if they get to tell “first!” after it.
I kinda feel like putting something in Mars orbit on your first try deserves some respect and recognition.
Again, just because no one has done something yet, doesn’t mean no one else could. They just choose to spend their money on something other than PR.
The very fact that they can send working spacecraft is already an accomplishment. How many countries can do that?
They are not yet a world power even if they claim to be. No doubt about that. But they are projected to become one in the not so near future. No doubt about that too.
India’s latest National Family Health Survey (NFHS), which shows that children in several states are more undernourished now than they were five years ago, is based on data collected in 2019-20. The survey was conducted in only 22 states before the onset of the pandemic - so experts fear the results will be much worse in the remaining states, where the survey began after the lockdown ended.
In places such as Dahod, however, the problem seems to have begun earlier. The district has seen a steep rise in the proportion of undernourished children compared with 2015-16, when the last survey was conducted.
Stunting among children under five in Dahod is up from 44% to 55%. And the proportion of severely underweight children in the district has risen from 7.8% to 13.4%.
Most Indian women are anaemic and poor women, especially so. And since undernourished mothers give birth to undernourished babies, experts say the worsening rate of malnutrition could be a result of women struggling to access nutrition benefits.
I’m not going to clap because Modi decided a pointless space mission that might trick people into thinking India was a world power is more important then the worst childhood malnourishment rates in the world.
He’s letting children starve and develop life long issues so people like you do what you’re doing right now.
what made you think India prioritised it over those things?
the budget for ISRO is much, much lower than the budget that goes towards programs to fix poverty related issues.
ISRO is 0.27% of the indian budget.
the remote sensing satellites have helped farmers, fishermen with actual food production, weather satellites with predicting disasters and saving lives.
for us its worth the investment even without factoring in the nice to haves like finding water on the moon or launching private satellites.
The cost at which India achieves these accomplishments are a fraction of what other Space Agencies. It’s something they should be proud of.
I went through the link and the entire fact that the article is using a small remote town to justify it with the entire India’s population is mind boggling to me. As someone from data science background, it just reeks as falsehood as no accurate source of data, sampling of such large pop and etc are mentioned.
That person you’re dealing with got a confirmation bias syndrome. The best they can do if to provide any sources they can find to justify their skewed argument.
Let me just provide different source to counter-prove that, to show the Indian government is taking care of their fellow citizens - government banned the export of non-basmati white rice to “ensure adequate domestic availability at reasonable prices". To keep rice at reasonable price is good enough to show that the country is taking care of its citizens and not letting them starving - countering the argument being put forward by sub-OP above. So, to totally claim that India is neglecting its citizens will be misleading.
To tell you the truth, I don’t even like Modi, but I couldn’t care less. You have a country and its citizens to deal with, your own domestic issues- its not me to judge. But to bash a country like the Mr-know-it-all above did, that’shitty. It’s like trying to impose one solution for all the world’s problem. To put it bluntly, that’s shallow-minded.
Exactly.
Thanks for the example!
They didn’t accomplish their main goals or any research they said they’d do. But because it continued to orbit for longer than the mission (that failed) would have taken… They celebrate as a success and “proof” that theyre a world power.
I really don’t think you meant to, but this is exactly what I was talking about.
TFA says India was the first nation to achieve Mars orbit on the first attempt. Standing on the shoulders of giants, and all, but still… that’s surely an exceptional feat?
Is it better to set the bar high and fail to achieve every goal, or set the bar low and achieve less, but be able to claim 100% success?
I dunno, man… I kinda feel like putting something in Mars orbit on your first try deserves some respect and recognition.
It’s not a question of if anyone could tho, it’s a question of why would anyone waste all that money for basically just PR…
To my knowledge no one has taken money from their starving citizens so they can light a billion dollars on fire. I still wouldn’t be impressed if someone did it, even if they get to tell “first!” after it.
Again, just because no one has done something yet, doesn’t mean no one else could. They just choose to spend their money on something other than PR.
It’s not just PR. Developing the engineering capability to reach Mars is a goal of its own. There are not many nations that can achieve that.
The very fact that they can send working spacecraft is already an accomplishment. How many countries can do that?
They are not yet a world power even if they claim to be. No doubt about that. But they are projected to become one in the not so near future. No doubt about that too.
No, any country that wants to pay for it can.
India prioritized it over other things like this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56080313
I’m not going to clap because Modi decided a pointless space mission that might trick people into thinking India was a world power is more important then the worst childhood malnourishment rates in the world.
He’s letting children starve and develop life long issues so people like you do what you’re doing right now.
what made you think India prioritised it over those things?
the budget for ISRO is much, much lower than the budget that goes towards programs to fix poverty related issues. ISRO is 0.27% of the indian budget.
the remote sensing satellites have helped farmers, fishermen with actual food production, weather satellites with predicting disasters and saving lives.
for us its worth the investment even without factoring in the nice to haves like finding water on the moon or launching private satellites.
No my country can’t.
I am. not even Indian. I reckon what ever he’s doing affect me the same way it affect you. And I don’t even like him.
But I am not that bias to mix national interest with domestic interest - to paint bad picture on a target, to excavate the worse and burying the good.
The cost at which India achieves these accomplishments are a fraction of what other Space Agencies. It’s something they should be proud of.
I went through the link and the entire fact that the article is using a small remote town to justify it with the entire India’s population is mind boggling to me. As someone from data science background, it just reeks as falsehood as no accurate source of data, sampling of such large pop and etc are mentioned.
It’s a problem all over India…
Your have a “data science background” it’s odd you can’t handle a Google search if you didn’t like my choice of link.
Well, I am just pointing out the problem with the article given its coming from BBC. If you could link something with much better sources, please do.
That person you’re dealing with got a confirmation bias syndrome. The best they can do if to provide any sources they can find to justify their skewed argument.
Let me just provide different source to counter-prove that, to show the Indian government is taking care of their fellow citizens - government banned the export of non-basmati white rice to “ensure adequate domestic availability at reasonable prices". To keep rice at reasonable price is good enough to show that the country is taking care of its citizens and not letting them starving - countering the argument being put forward by sub-OP above. So, to totally claim that India is neglecting its citizens will be misleading.
To tell you the truth, I don’t even like Modi, but I couldn’t care less. You have a country and its citizens to deal with, your own domestic issues- its not me to judge. But to bash a country like the Mr-know-it-all above did, that’shitty. It’s like trying to impose one solution for all the world’s problem. To put it bluntly, that’s shallow-minded.