This is outrageous, especially since you can not create a google account without a phone number anymore.

  • wagoner@infosec.pub
    14428·
    1 year ago

    How is it “outrageous” when you’re accessing a service through a means that is not supported, and likely frowned upon? They are not obligated to make everything work through those means.

    I write as a daily user of newpipe, which I love dearly!

    • Knusper@feddit.de
      786·
      1 year ago

      For a normal company, that is a perfectly reasonable policy. What’s really the outraging part here, is that YouTube holds a monopoly on tons of content.

      People feel forced to access YouTube to live their lives, whether that’s just to watch entertainment they’ve followed for a while, or because a colleague sends a link to a YouTube video, or because when looking up stuff, the only explanation seems to be in a YouTube video.

      If they could simply go to a competitor with a less shitty app, less awful privacy practices or a more open ecosystem, they wouldn’t need to complain about YouTube to begin with.

      • miniu@beehaw.org
        201·
        1 year ago

        I agree fully. People should move out of youtube. Situation really isn’t outrageous. Just a private company doing private company things. I hope this pushes more people to use/create alternatives.

      • csm10495@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        18·
        1 year ago

        I mean you could start a competitor. So could anyone. Only a company like Google can afford to keep losing money on something like YouTube.

        Funny thing is I wouldn’t want the content to be decentralized. It’s nice to find all my crap in one place; and let a big company waste money to serve it.

        • JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
          6·
          1 year ago

          This corporate Stockholm syndrome is so sad. “We need a better jailer!”

          In a better world, i.e. the one of the internet as it was designed, you wouldn’t need to look for “a competitor” to Youtube. People would publish their stuff anywhere, using any software, and open protocols would make it all easy to find. The “all my crap in one place” would just be a cached decentralized index of some kind.

          Yes, I know that the better world is further off than ever, but it is possible and it is better.

    • eskimofry@lemmy.ml
      85·
      1 year ago

      Let’s say we continue down this path. Soon you can’t even live the way you want because some corp will control things like when you eat, when you sleep, what media you consume,… oh wait…

    • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
      31·
      1 year ago

      You and OP are both right, IMHO.

      The issue is that things like YouTube are so ubiquitous and have such a stranglehold that it seems like it should be a service in public control and without a corporate overlord with ulterior motives. That’s the strange thing about the internet right now and ultimately the stage of capitalism we’re in: there are a ton of tacit monopolies which are not being held to any standard about what they control. Some of them look a lot like utilities (e.g. ISPs) since they are so ubiquitous (and compare YouTube to public television 50 years ago – not a utility, but also not something that has traditionally been possible for any single corporation).

      That said, ultimately these companies will continue to do whatever they want because they can (until real regulation returns, but I have my qualms it will ever happen at this point).

  • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
    341·
    1 year ago

    The less I can use this site to satisfy my dopamine removed of a brain, the more I will be forced to touch grass

  • gullible@kbin.social
    301·
    1 year ago

    Just checked, invidious is still safe. Relatedly, I hate that every decision that pushed me away from youtube has also brought youtube closer to having positive cash flow. Enshitification flusters me.

    • Shakuni@lemmy.ml
      2·
      1 year ago

      I recently tried Invidious for the first time, and I wasn’t able to select any video quality above 720p. Has it always been like that?

      • noodlejetski@geddit.social
        3·
        1 year ago

        you need to change the “Preferred video quality” in the preferences to “DASH (adaptive quality)”, then you’ll be able to pick higher resolution.

      • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
        1·
        1 year ago

        Did you try other instances? Some instances disable higher resolutions to try to balance their network bandwidth, others don’t do that but will not be able to send you the content because their bandwidth is exhausted by their users. Some others can keep up with the load, and there are also lesser used ones.

        Also, this might apply only if you have enabled proxying videos. You can turn that off in the settings (stored in cookies, so make sure they are allowed)

    • z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml
      11·
      1 year ago

      And on Android, Clipious works with Invidious. Not as nice as Libretube, but at least it will circumvent this bs should the need be.

      You also can yt-dlp with invidious, sponsorblock, and “subscribe” using rss feeds. Once downloaded, you can then load it on your phone via usb if you want to go through the trouble…

  • kavin@feddit.rocks
    271·
    1 year ago

    Author of Piped (and also a member of TeamNewPipe and LibreTube) here.

    I haven’t seen any changes from YouTube recently, the ways we fetch age restricted content still seem to work for most videos. However, this method may not work for all videos as YouTube has different levels of age restrictions afaict. I’ve seen very few videos fall under that category personally.

    If anything were to change in the future, I may consider implementing something similar to what this extension does (or use their API) in Piped.

  • CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works
    221·
    1 year ago

    My Google account is so old it’s probably deemed historical, there is no age, there is nothing. Its just a email address and a picture. Everything so far works for me, i use Revanced for referencing purposes.

  • vlad@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    211·
    1 year ago

    A long time ago I was able to make a Google account without a phone number because I used a VPN and set it to India. I wonder if that still works.

  • erranto@lemmy.world
    12·
    1 year ago

    Just like for Reddit. Youtube Front-ends are gonna be rendered useless very very soon.

  • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.eeEnglish
    10·
    1 year ago

    As of now, I can still view Bobby Yeah on PipePipe without any problems not sure if whatever change has been fully rolled out and implemented yet, but I ain’t got problems yet.

    Also, I will wait for the news that people have found a way around it. People will always find a way around it. The yt staff may seem smart, but they are nowhere near as smart at the combined brainpower of those looking for a way around any and all obstacles.

    Edit:

    Not the most elegant or guaranteed safe way, but I took the video link and put it into a website for downloading yt videos and was able to get it to play and I could download it. Of course I didn’t since I don’t trust the site since it’s part of a work in progress section of a rentry site headed by the r/piracy people (though I’m not sure if they still work on it or if it’s now updated by the piracy@lemmy.dbzero0.com people or just flat out dead).

  • minnix@lemux.minnix.devEnglish
    4·
    1 year ago

    @MagneticFusion@lemm.ee the video you posted doesn’t allow embedding. Here’s the error message “This video contains content from Ligue de Football Professionnel, who has blocked it from display on this website or application”

    The age restriction bypass for invidious uses an embed client. Here’s an age restricted video that works fine with invidious, because it allows embedding: https://youtu.be/VxhRnfi6yyE