Kansas' attorney general is telling public schools they're required to tell parents their children are transgender or nonbinary even if they're not out at home, though Kansas is not among the states with a law that explicitly says to do that.
Schools are pressuring kids to transition then hiding it from the parents.
No they’re not, stop lying about that. 🙄
If that doesn’t raise alarm bells you might be a gr00mer
Sounds like you might be projecting there, champ.
The reason this is concerning is because kids get beaten or murdered by parents for being different all the time. Lot of shitty parents out there, so it should probably be up the the student on when or if they come out to them.
According to the legal document, “Under the Parental Secrecy Policy, Buena Vista teachers and staff would keep secret from parents that their children had articulated confusion about their gender identity, evinced a desire to change their gender identity, or assumed or expressed a new gender identity, unless the student expressly authorized the parents to be informed.”
“So, then I just make sure when I am calling home, I use what they prefer,” the teacher admits. Then she adds the coup de grâce, “Even if someone told me I couldn’t do that, and I couldn’t call them whatever they want or the pronouns they want without parent permission…” here she pauses for dramatic effect while leaning into the camera, “…I would still do it.” The teacher who prefers to keep a student’s transition a secret then signs off with a knowing laugh.
Some teachers said they followed the rules, but others discussed being ‘subversive,’ how their personal ‘code of ethics’ trumped laws, and how to ‘hide’ a trans student’s new name and gender from their parents.
Your quotes don’t support your idea that schools are forcing children to transition… They are literally just protecting a child’s confidential statements because there are shitty fucking parents out there that would kill or abuse their children over this.
in your above sources you literally failed to show that they pressured the kids, and your sources consist of six lines of text on a legal case and a fake news rag from terf island.
So, apparently you’ve shown that schools are persuading children to change their gender using a 6 line news story and a terf tabloid with a fake news problem, very convincing. After reading the first source, it just shows that the schools settled outside of court, and that there was a policy to keep transitioning secret from the parents, unless the student authorized the parent to know. I’m willing to bet that people would be willing to open up to their family if they were not at risk of harm or ostracization. I say that as someone who is closeted for that exact reason.
Your quotes just show the terrifying nature of schools; using preferred pronouns to… make the children not feel dysphoria? What a conspiracy.
I am not saying that there is not any LGBTQ child predators, I am saying that the tale spun to demonize LGBTQ people as a whole as groomers is just that, a tale with no basis in reality.
Simply put, the groomer myth is an attempt to demonize LGBTQ people, and it’s rhetoric is widely used by people on the right and far right as a way to create some bullshit culture war. It demonizes their opponents, and to creates a moral basis for their otherwise disgusting authoritarian policies while rallying support and making a divide that is impossible to sympathize across.
I’m not who you initially responded to, and I don’t think that anybody has claimed that zero LGBTQ people are groomers, just that’s it’s not a higher percentage than any other group, that’s what I was trying to point out
Parents do not co-parent with the government, as much as the gov would like otherwise.
True, I agree with you on this, they have an influence but they’re not co-parenting, but school is a place where kids can be themselves among peers, and school and home life should (mostly) be shared at the child’s discretion, especially if they’re over 15.
Schools are pressuring kids to transition then hiding it from the parents
Source? Theyre not doing that, what are you talking about?
If that doesn’t raise alarm bells you might be a gr00mer
It doesnt raise alarm bells for me because that’s not something that’s happening.
No, I mean that nothing in the article is proof that that’s what they’re doing, they’re only hiding the fact that the children are trans from their parents if that’s what the children want, and helping children that are trans by giving them counseling or whatever. Even those articles have no proof of what they’re claiming is happening
No, I’m using it correctly. Just because you can’t understand why that is and the intricacies of the language aren’t my problem. Nice try at discrediting me and putting words in my mouth.
Good. Parents do not co-parent with the government, as much as the gov would like otherwise.
Schools are pressuring kids to transition then hiding it from the parents. If that doesn’t raise alarm bells you might be a gr00mer.
I’m sure you have the potential to type a compelling and eloquent post that would cause us all to change our minds.
… and I have to thank you for restraining yourself and instead posting nonsense and attempting to start fights.
I’m glad you are doing this because it reminds the rest of us how much we need to support trans people who regularly have to deal with this.
Thanks friend. In many ways this makes you a trans ally.
No they’re not, stop lying about that. 🙄
Sounds like you might be projecting there, champ.
The reason this is concerning is because kids get beaten or murdered by parents for being different all the time. Lot of shitty parents out there, so it should probably be up the the student on when or if they come out to them.
I wish it wasn’t true.
https://www.ksbw.com/article/spreckels-union-school-district-settles-with-parent-over-indoctrination-allegations/44942724
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12202901/Midwest-teachers-trade-tips-subversively-quietly-transitioning-kids-without-telling-parents.html
Source?
Your quotes don’t support your idea that schools are forcing children to transition… They are literally just protecting a child’s confidential statements because there are shitty fucking parents out there that would kill or abuse their children over this.
Moving the goalposts… sigh.
I never said ‘forced’. I said they pressured and hid it from parents. Which is true.
in your above sources you literally failed to show that they pressured the kids, and your sources consist of six lines of text on a legal case and a fake news rag from terf island.
Alright you shit eating neanderthal, none of your fucking sources mention anything about pressuring students to transition.
Get your fucking rage baiting ass out of here.
https://capitalresearch.org/article/nea-counsels-school-districts-to-hide-gender-transitions-from-parents/
So, apparently you’ve shown that schools are persuading children to change their gender using a 6 line news story and a terf tabloid with a fake news problem, very convincing. After reading the first source, it just shows that the schools settled outside of court, and that there was a policy to keep transitioning secret from the parents, unless the student authorized the parent to know. I’m willing to bet that people would be willing to open up to their family if they were not at risk of harm or ostracization. I say that as someone who is closeted for that exact reason.
Your quotes just show the terrifying nature of schools; using preferred pronouns to… make the children not feel dysphoria? What a conspiracy.
Ah, the classic LGBTQ groomer allegations. A tale as old as the gay panic, a tale that has never been true.
Go take your culture war bullshit off lemmy
It’s been true countless times.
https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/san-francisco-lgbt-advocate-sentenced-for-child-porn-possession/
https://www.bostonherald.com/2023/06/23/former-new-hampshire-state-rep-charged-with-child-pornography/
I am not saying that there is not any LGBTQ child predators, I am saying that the tale spun to demonize LGBTQ people as a whole as groomers is just that, a tale with no basis in reality.
For a quick overview on the origins of this myth, this wapo article goes into it, and this study by the NLM shows that there is no increased risk of sexual abuse due to being LGB.
Simply put, the groomer myth is an attempt to demonize LGBTQ people, and it’s rhetoric is widely used by people on the right and far right as a way to create some bullshit culture war. It demonizes their opponents, and to creates a moral basis for their otherwise disgusting authoritarian policies while rallying support and making a divide that is impossible to sympathize across.
How many priests and conservative politicians have been convicted for child porn?
Whataboutism. Not the point.
You said it didn’t happen which is clearly false.
I’m not who you initially responded to, and I don’t think that anybody has claimed that zero LGBTQ people are groomers, just that’s it’s not a higher percentage than any other group, that’s what I was trying to point out
They did that literally in this thread. And the mod removed a post for ‘reasons’.
https://capitalresearch.org/article/nea-counsels-school-districts-to-hide-gender-transitions-from-parents/
True, I agree with you on this, they have an influence but they’re not co-parenting, but school is a place where kids can be themselves among peers, and school and home life should (mostly) be shared at the child’s discretion, especially if they’re over 15.
Source? Theyre not doing that, what are you talking about?
It doesnt raise alarm bells for me because that’s not something that’s happening.
“That’s not happening”
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-10-05-schools-are-now-encouraging-children-to-transition.html
https://www.prageru.com/video/prageru-ceo-marissa-streit-reacts-schools-encourage-kids-to-transition
Both of those sources are known to constantly spout disinformation, and their “evidence” seems tenuous at best.
Where “disinformation” = News that the left doesn’t like, I agree.
And we have proof that this is exactly the definition used by the left to censor Twitter and the rest of mainstream internet.
No, I mean that nothing in the article is proof that that’s what they’re doing, they’re only hiding the fact that the children are trans from their parents if that’s what the children want, and helping children that are trans by giving them counseling or whatever. Even those articles have no proof of what they’re claiming is happening
“No proof” aka “I don’t have any logical response to your facts so I’m going to pretend they aren’t real.”
If you stick your head in the sand even further, you won’t see any light at all.
https://capitalresearch.org/article/nea-counsels-school-districts-to-hide-gender-transitions-from-parents/
“No proof” aka your “source” doesn’t back up your bold claim that “schools are pressuring kids into transitioning”
Instead of posting it over and over, you should try actually reading it.
Imagine unironically sourcing PragerU for any reason and expecting to look smart for it
https://capitalresearch.org/article/nea-counsels-school-districts-to-hide-gender-transitions-from-parents/
Yet another transphobe trying to make incorrect claims due to a lack of education in the matter and leading to unnecessary deaths of children.
transphobe, you keep using that word incorrectly. Maybe you should learn what ‘phobic’ means.
But nice try at dehumanizing me.
No, I’m using it correctly. Just because you can’t understand why that is and the intricacies of the language aren’t my problem. Nice try at discrediting me and putting words in my mouth.
No, you’re not.
My reasons for not wanting the mentally ill to have access to children are far from irrational.
Propaganda isn’t “intricacies of the language” btw. Changing definitions is propaganda 101.
Oh hey look there you are.
You expend a lot of effort railing against the rights of people you don’t know or understand.
I’d pity you: but transphobes don’t deserve it. Have fun wallowing in your own rage and piss.
My God its even in the definition and you so confidently don’t get it
I’d say it’s pretty irrational to fabricate events and then become outraged about them.