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  • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    well the point of IPA is that a symbol matches up to an internationally-agreed sound and /o/ is the close-mid back rounded vowel

    however, what’s not listed is that it seems the elongation of a vowel in Japanese is suprasegmented - so the “doo” sound is closer to how you’d say the o’s in the (nonsense) phrase “do oozing” - a very subtle distinction from just “doo”

    it’s possible that Japanese speakers could endolabiallize differently, or that they form the vowel closer to open-back than close-back like /《o̞》 / but I’m not an expert