Real conversation I had with my Mum multiple times:
Mum: I can’t find X.
Me: Where do you normaly save it?
Mum: In Word.
She’s not wrong
Been helping with multiple friends? Windows 11 systems and the directories are all fucked up. Windows wants everything synced to Onedrive and so when you click on downloads or something it goes to onedrive’s downloads and so forth. It’s fucking hell I have to delete onedrive and find documents again to make it so it’s useful again.
Isn’t this operating system supposed to be noob friendly? If they figure out how to go back to windows 10 22h2 then they can probably find out where the directories are already.
Btw, all these computers are stock and not modified.
This is nearly identical to the Apple ecosystem. Everything gets virtually pathed and saved to your iCloud account unless you direct it to do otherwise. Oh, and you can’t manage iOS to do otherwise, short of disabling the iCloud uploads. In Windows, for people who blindly (or intentionally) choose OneDrive for their cloud service, it’s essentially transparent. I’m not saying it’s right, but for the pc-as-an-appliance crowd, it’s pretty smooth when it works.
It’s a terrible idea. Say your pc torrents 2 TB of media, I’m not gonna pay Windows for 2 TB of onedrive storage. What of those people in engineering and comp sci who have massive files of projects and don’t need to sync to onedrive because they already use backups to github or otherwise?
You just save them outside of the normal folders of documents, pictures, videos, music, and downloads that Onedrive syncs.
Or you adjust your Omedrive settings.
Yeah I know how to do this. I don’t even use Windows but yeah, it’s just annoying that Microsoft forces you to do all this to make everything usable.
They want your subscription. They don’t care about friendly. They make it confusing on purpose, since less knowledgeable people will just sign up for the paid plan. It’s a dark pattern.
With how monolithic operating systems are and how much gets built on top of them and requires them, we really need legislation to prevent this kind of greed. There is no free market and no freedom of choice when it comes to OSes because of that dependency.
There is legislation against it, but it has to be enforced to actually be illegal.
Edit: and enforcing it would require legislatures that understand it. Most of our legislatures were born before color TVs existed.
“I saved it in Windows”
This isn’t going away because most users are raised on tablets nowadays and fewer people than you expect understand directory trees.
I just know that the magic tree thingy starts with a /
It baffles me how people don’t understand file trees. Is folders inside of folders really a difficult concept to understand?
Tablets and phones abstract it away, they’re never exposed to it.
Steam screenshots
Steam settings > In game. There’s a whole screenshots section. It only saves the screenshot temporarily until you upload it to Steam unless you set it to save another copy. Extremely simple.
Seriously, why isn’t it as simple as a Steam>Screenshots with folders by game? I have to google it every time it comes up.
I’m not qualified in any feasible way to talk about this…but
Maybe it has to do with how individual developers make their games. Like if every game defaults screenshots to somewhere different it is difficult for steam to properly identify and place the file?
But aren’t the screenshots handled by the Steam overlay directly? The only ‘screenshot’ feature I’ve ever seen in game is photo mode. Actual screenshots have been through Steam or print screen (Greenshot).
Windows moment.
OneDrive! Is that where you wanted it saved? Too bad! Sign up for a subscription now!
I hate this cancer so much. I’ve even forcefully removed it from my system, and Word still tries to save it there and then hangs for 30 secs while realizing that shit is gone.
I think I’m just going to get a Steam Deck and that will be my new PC.
Just get a mini pc like a NUC or Beelink and install Linux.
This is the answer.
But I want a Steam Deck anyway.
This is just sad imo
OneDrive, because despite never purposely using it that’s where word defaults to after every update, so Microsoft can get more of your data.
c: \ \users\bob\ .appdata\ .roaming\notporn\pom.xml\ .appdata\d: \ \desktop\mydocuments\documents\onedrive\system31\windows\dev\swap1\sda1\Documents
The entire ms office suite has become the worst for this. No I don’t want to Dave this document into the generic documents folder of my OneDrive, or into poorly named folders that do not show any file tree whatsoever. Don’t make me click 4 different places just to get back to a normal save as dialog box so I can put it in neatly organized folders like they’re supposed to be.
Having your own hierarchy of folders works nice with pretty much anything but Office and wine-d applications. There’s no problem understanding the latter, but the first one brings a lot of confusion with it’s insistence to use C:\Users%username%\Documents even though you never ever opened this folder intentionally.
This is the best I can do:
What the hell is a backstage Microsoft
In case you didn’t know, the OG Documents folder is still there under /users/[you]/ and you can put shit in it without OneDrive trying to get it’s sticky fingers all over it. Unfortunately save as won’t default to it.
MS Office has a bastardized save menu that pretends your PC only has 5 folders.
So much this. On my office computer I need to do half a dozen of clicks before I get a properly identifiable save location. This is just ridiculous.
And it’s extra stupid because in a corporate office setting is the one place you MOST need to avoid Onedrive. Onedrive is not useful for me ij the slightest except as a cloud backup, 90% of the documents or spreadsheets I touch have to be on a network drive in a very specific folder so that other people in the department can pull them as needed…
It’s part of a long term strategy from Microsoft to break users of their habits, i.e. managing your own computer the way you want to manage it, and instead get them to stop thinking and just let Microsoft tell you what goes where (hint: it’s the cloud).
That’s why everything in Windows seems to be less and less concerned with the actual Windows operating system and the software in it, and more concerned with Edge, web apps, and OneDrive. That’s why they force the account in the OOBE, why they won’t let you forget you’re not using OneDrive in the File explorer.
That’s why desktop/local OneNote was effectively destroyed and now it’s basically just a cloud service. It’s more profitable if user’s shit is locked on their server instead of locally. They’re slowly getting ready to do the same thing to Outlook.
Their dream, their wildest ambition for Windows is for it to be something like a kiosk you use to access 365 on the web via Edge. To get there, they’d really, really, really like you to stop thinking about anything local.
No I don’t want to Dave this document into the generic documents folder of my OneDrive
I am now imagining a guy named Dave who is infamous for storing his files in a disorganized manner.
Damnit. Fixed… phone keyboards man
It got so much worse with the heavy suggesting of OneDrive and Microsoft intentionally misleading people into thinking they’ve successfully clicked out of using OneDrive.
It’s a dark pattern, which is illegal. But good luck taking them to court on it.
Is—Is this what getting old feels like?
I’m kind of baffled by this, because it’s super easy to track down filepaths. Or you could just re-save the document using ‘save as’ to see the last directory.
I weep for the tech-illiterate youths.Not if you’ve grown up with watered down touch screen OS’s. It’s hard for us to imagine because it was all laid bare for us when we were first getting used to these things.
- Re-open the application
- Save empty xocument
- Look where it’s saving
Or just Save As and copy the location that it opens to.
