Yeah, no, this is absolutely meaningless. None of this has any relevance as long as the current conflict is still going, and nobody knows what the situation in Ukraine will be when it does end. And everything they promise in this statement to do in the future for Ukraine they have already been doing and Ukraine is still losing. None of those measures worked to stop Russia doing what they judged needed to be done.
But you know what would work to deter Russia? Actually sitting down to talk to them and taking their stated vital interests seriously without trying to pull one over on them and scam them for the third time. And unfortunately, since that is still too radical a step for Europe at the moment, the present course will continue unabated, to the detriment of Ukraine and of Europe, not so much to Russia.
What I was expecting to see was a guarantee that they would be joining the war with their own militaries. Since they are not then this is just more of the same and amounts to posturing imo.
It’s not posturing. It’s a commitment to increase defense spending which will then be used as excuse to impose austerity and budget cuts this year (“it’s the Russians, not your own capitalists who are doing this to you”), and preparing the countries for shock therapy in the very near future. Everything is going exactly as planned.
Yeah, no, this is absolutely meaningless. None of this has any relevance as long as the current conflict is still going, and nobody knows what the situation in Ukraine will be when it does end. And everything they promise in this statement to do in the future for Ukraine they have already been doing and Ukraine is still losing. None of those measures worked to stop Russia doing what they judged needed to be done.
But you know what would work to deter Russia? Actually sitting down to talk to them and taking their stated vital interests seriously without trying to pull one over on them and scam them for the third time. And unfortunately, since that is still too radical a step for Europe at the moment, the present course will continue unabated, to the detriment of Ukraine and of Europe, not so much to Russia.
What I was expecting to see was a guarantee that they would be joining the war with their own militaries. Since they are not then this is just more of the same and amounts to posturing imo.
It’s not posturing. It’s a commitment to increase defense spending which will then be used as excuse to impose austerity and budget cuts this year (“it’s the Russians, not your own capitalists who are doing this to you”), and preparing the countries for shock therapy in the very near future. Everything is going exactly as planned.
If anything, this just forces Russia to push to the end.
Quite the opposite of of a dissuasion, IMO.
Indeed.