Infuriating. In this form, private education is an absolute cancer.

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      They should be banned. You want rich kids going to school with poor kids.

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        Rick kids going to school with poor kids does not fix education. Already public schools in wealthier areas score equivalent to private schools with the same demographics. Banning private schools will mean more kids get a worse education. Instead we should focus on improving public schools where they are lacking. The problem is going to get worse as teachers are priced out of home ownership in cities.

        Id prefer university to be free for all rather than wasting money paying for more public schools education of those who can afford to pay for it, and wish to.

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        You first. You ever try going to a poor school district? There’s a reason why public school districts have ratings. Easy to say, but nobody even slightly well off wants to go where testing scores and the rest of the school metrics are worse in every way.

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          In Finland, 99% of education on all levels (primary through university) is public. Private schools only exist to serve very special needs, and are not allowed to charge exorbitant fees.

          Finland has got some of the best academic outcomes in the world. It goes to show what you can do when you invest in public education instead of starving it of the necessities.

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        I agree. Most of the stats and studies show that public schools.in wealthier areas do equivalent to private schools. The demographics seem to be more important than the school. I don’t think you should tell parents how they educate their kids, or how they spend their money.

        We shouldn’t try to dismantle private education. We should elevate public education so that it’s seen as a waste of time. We should also not be funding private schools.

        To take your analogy further, should we ban supermarkets? Children should also not go hungry. Why not make it so everyone eats the same thing, from a coop shop, with no fees. Of course not.

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          To take your analogy further, should we ban supermarkets? Children should also not go hungry. Why not make it so everyone eats the same thing, from a coop shop, with no fees. Of course not.

          I’m down for that, beats getting price-gouged by those fuckers and we don’t need shelves with 20 different versions of lemonade, 16 different self-raising flours, etc.

          As long as private education exists, it will be a threat to public education and cannot be allowed.

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            With how much the government loves animal agriculture and my ARFID, I expect it would be nigh impossible for me to eat vegan if I relied on the government to determine the available selection of foods.

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            Private education is only a threat to public education when it’s not as good. There is a finite supply of funding allocated to education. Spending less on students that pay their own way by choice and more on students that need it seems a better use of resources.

            With that same analogy, we would have to ban tutors, online courses, extracurricular activities etc too, I assume?

            Or in my equivalent analogy, restaurants, farmers markets, independent food shops, butchers, greengrocers, cafes etc.

            No, we don’t need 20 choices for every product, but the reason supermarkets price gouge is a lack of competition. You’re calling for less competition, completely at odds with your stated goal.

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              But are we “spending less” on students that “pay their own way”? Private schools are getting massive amounts of taxpayer money, and can use their funds to pay better salaries (therefore drawing teachers out of the public system), build better facilities, and so on. Meanwhile they are academically selective and therefore don’t act as a catchment for capacity that the public system can’t handle. Public schools however have to scrounge for the essentials and can’t compete when it comes to salaries and facilities. That’s just not right.

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              Private education exists to be at odds with public education. As long as it is around, rich people will try to use it and when they are using it they will not have a reason for public education and dismiss it’s importance. Not letting money be a factor in access to education at all seems the best outcome, and we have more than enough money for education if we actually wanted to use our national resources effectively instead of letting them be sold off for corporate profits.

              I’m calling for no competition, access to education or food isn’t a game where your goal is to get the most money out of people, it’s about providing for citizens needs in life.