Morrison is often associated with the youth counterculture. As someone who was born in the 21st century, I want to know what type of person he was, to people who were able to witness his era.

It could be anything about him - his influence, his music, his personal life, his relationship, activism, childhood, or the type of person he was, if his musics were popular and was his life tragic, or filled with happiness? I don’t want to hear the Wikipedia summary, I’m interested in what you think as someone who enjoys music.

  • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    I went to his grave, it’s in an amazing graveyard that’s worth exploring regardless. He made sweet music but he’s a pretty flawed human being… I’m happy to celebrate the culture he’s been associated with though.

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      7 months ago

      It seems that being a flawed person comes with the territory of being a genius, especially in the arts

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        7 months ago

        Nope - it doesn’t, but there is a fair amount of overlap.

        I’d say it’s more accurate (but still not precisely correct) to say that desiring fame is a reflection of an insecurity - most people who rabidly chase publicity have deep personal flaws (but not all - fame is a price not a reward if you accept fame to enact social change that’s a reasonable exchange… fame for fame’s sake is dumb).

        Lots of geniuses aren’t famous and those guys are usually pretty alright. There might be some correlation with some social disorders but we don’t have any good studies on that.

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    I live real close to the house he lived in when he was a kid. There’s even a “Riders on the Storm Inn” here in town… 😌 I don’t know a lot about the man that he was and I’m too young to have seen The Doors play, though I really enjoy “People Are Strange,” and a few other songs of theirs. I’m glad he found a way out of this place, though, even if it was only for a short time.

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    7 months ago

    I’m old enough to remember the Doors.

    Jim Morrison was a narcissist, his poetry and lyrics go from mediocre to bad, he wasn’t really that popular until years after he died.

    You would hear a shortened version of “light my fire” on the radio now and then, but no one was really influenced by the Doors and no one really cared much about them.

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      The band (not Jim) was the talent for sure. But as someone who was born in '72, I did enter teen years viewing him as the personification of Dionysus (which he cultivated). As an adult, I have no doubt he was an insufferable ass. :)

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      This is just so, so, so wrong.

      Light my fire was a #1 hit - back when that meant something. The album peaked at #2 in the US. They regularly sold out tour dates.

      You may be “old enough to remember the doors” (whatever that means, we know you aren’t 75) but that isn’t a license to just make shit up to sound smart and cool.

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    7 months ago

    I thought it was really cool that he inspired Wayne Campbell to start Waynestock

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    7 months ago

    Typically arrogant american with a god complex. He was soo in the drugs that he lost his way like most.

  • anonochronomus [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Well, his dad was the Admiral that did the Gulf of Tonkin incident and there’s a ton of evidence that The Doors were not an organic phenomena at all but in reality were most likely an intelligence operation. See Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon by David McGowan, it very clearly lays out the spiderweb of connections between 60s “counter culture” and intelligence agencies. To address your other questions; No. He was a piece of shit. He was not an activist, he was just as awful as any boomer you ever met. Very little is actually known about his early life because HE WAS AN OP. As far as the music goes, i could take it or leave it. Morrison didn’t write the music anyway. He wrote a series of poems in one brief artistic burst that eventually became the lyrics to all of their songs, and he allegedly did this some time before he met the rest of the band.

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      7 months ago

      Is this a right wing Christian conspiracy? What’s the aim, another of those Cia working to undermine christ with rock and roll type things?

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    I’m not old enough to remember him personally, but I do remember the 80s when FM Rock stations still played The Doors and Led Zeppelin incessantly. Back then, there was a syndicated radio show that – for one episode – broadcast interviews with the surviving band members. I distinctly remember the tone of voice (though not the exact words or quantity) of one of them saying, “I saw him take threee huuundred micrograms of acid” (at some location). Sounded angry and astounded just on the retelling. I think that’s also where I heard bandmates talking about Jim pleading out to a possession charge and being required to do public service announcements instead of going to jail. He was a jerk about it. The PSAs were grouped as “Speed Kills” and he was supposed to hammer that home, but was ruining each take, saying things like (but not exactly cuz I don’t remember), “Speed kills. Smoke pot, instead!”

    From my personal view of his music, we had all The Doors albums in my house when I was growing up, so I’d heard them all. For reference, we also had Simon and Garfunkel, Joni Mitchell, some Beatles, Rolling Stones, and other stuff like that.

    I think Jim Morrison had a tight band behind him and wrote some decent lyrics. I think ‘Light my Fire’ was over-played and other songs should have gotten more attention. I do, however, appreciate that each band member got to solo on that, and the song’s greatest weakness is that those solos get cut for airplay. It isn’t even that the solos deserve special attention, but the song is too short and repetitive without it.

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    I am not old enough to give you the answer you are looking for, but i was a big doors fan while in college 15 years ago. from what i learned about jim and the doors, it seems that jim was kinda a narcissist and was deified by his untimely death. Imagine how society would view Kanye if he had died young, though that may be too tough on jim.

    i am kinda embarrased to refer you to a bio pic, but i liked the val kilmer one from the 80s. You should watch it if you haven’t.

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    7 months ago

    Youth culture got subverted. Dying your hair and blathering about your gender identity on social media is the new rebellion. Small, safe and under control.

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    Really dislike him and his music. His rebel without a cause routine is irritating. Can’t stand The Doors’ music.