• AJ Sadauskas@aus.social
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    8 months ago

    @owen @heatofignition @mondoman712 The answer is definitely not never.

    I’m all for increasing the cost of driving, including fuel excises. And taxes on cars. And potentially congestion taxes.

    But most people — at least in the mainland capitals — should be within comfortable walking distance of a public transport service that runs every 10 minutes first.

    That’s not currently the case.

    Price mechanisms aren’t as effective as they could be at changing behaviour if there are no viable alternatives in place.

    So my answer is ideally petrol prices should be increased at the same time as decent bus services are rolled out across the capital cities.

    And I think where public transport services are already at a decent standard, or as services are improved, we should be rolling out more localised disincentives to driving, such as pedestrianising streets.

    We should be doing that right now.

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      8 months ago

      @ajsadauskas @heatofignition @mondoman712

      Right, then it sounds like we’re mostly on the same page. If you scroll back up through these posts and read my original reply, I’m pushing back on multiple people communicating a hard line in the sand, no additional car ownership costs before there’s some vague level of transit service.

      That is a lot different than asking our policymakers to coordinate transportation changes, which you seem to be saying now.

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          8 months ago

          @ajsadauskas @heatofignition @mondoman712

          Its an important distinction because people have a delusional perception of what’s already available. Every city has a bus system. People can use 20 minute bus service! And I guarantee if middle class folks start riding those buses, the service will improve.

          And additionally there are places that will never have transit. We can’t hope people will eventually just stop living in rural areas and then after that, finally, we’ll raise fuel taxes.