Racism and chauvinism with corruption and cronyism mixed in
Australia checking in.
For the last 2 years we’re suddenly awash with these cheap Chinese cars, and yank tanks.
They’re both ridiculous in their own way. I can’t see myself buying either in the next decade.
The Chinese stuff is only selling because its cheaper, but it’s going to cost a lot more to own because it’s going to lose value much more quickly than real cars. As usual, you pay more for cheaper products.
That said, I don’t mind them being here and putting some downward pressure on the price of proper cars.
Commence downvotes butthurt tankies.
Commence downvotes butthurt tankies.
I’m honestly confused about who the tankies are supposed to be at this point. Downvotes for what?
It costs more to own because it loses value more quickly… You mean, like all EVs? Or were you talking about the car losing half of its value the minute it drives off the lot?
Prove me wrong that this has nothing to do with the fact that China became the world’s biggest auto exporter last year and this is a desperate way for the US to try to protect their own auto industry.
Free market, my bottom.
FREE* MARKET!
*=within the US
Lol no, that hasnt been true for a long time.
- = within the US**
** = if you’re born into money
Anti dumping tariffs aredesign to help all Americans. It’s not just protecting our economy but also a matter of national security.
Best believe China is not selling each vehicle at a massive loss, paid for my the CCP, for the benefit for humanity. It’s there to dominate and destroy all car companies and then in turn dominate the world.
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It’s obviously protectionist who said otherwise? Let China sell their cars to friendly nations, oh wait…
Well, it’s more than that. China is actively trying to dump on the market. Selling things at a loss so they can kill and steal market share.
Sorta what Amazon did early on but on a global scale.
This would be valid if… China was dumping. They’re not. They’re selling far above unit costs. In fact, their export models are often double or triple the price of domestic models of the same car.
I brought receipts.
https://www.ft.com/content/55ec498d-0959-41ef-8ab9-af06cc45f8e7
Just because YOU don’t believe in facts doesn’t make it less true.
Interesting receipts you provide… Receipts with zero evidence actually provided.
OP is correct. The fact is that Chinese cars sold for export are substantially more expensive than those sold for domestic consumption. Unless your argument is that they’re… Dumping domestically?
Better tell all the investors, then.
Just Amazon? lol
Is amazon even much of a thing outside the US? Like here in Europe they have like 2 places they ship from and it takes a week to arrive and costs 10x as much as ordering from a local online store. I don’t really know anyone who uses amazon regularly.
You do realise that you have described just now what all startups are doing in the US. Like look at WhatsApp, Facebook, etc. they were working for years if not decades on a massive loss in an attempt to more or less monopolize the segment, backed by the deep pockets of their investors.
And I think it is only fair if you demand the same level of scrutiny to all companies involved in such practices.
American companies can’t dump. This is specifically for countries to protect their own industries.
US companies can operate at a loss to gain market share, but the money losses is still in its own economy and not an outside foreign country that might not aligned with our countries values.
Plus a company can only lose money for so long that eventually the market starts correcting itself and investors pull funding. Can’t be said about China which is basically unlimited money.
The repercussions is drastic. China has already done this with solar panels. We are already beholden to them for this. If we were dependant on solar panels and not fossil fuel, they would literally be controlling our energy needs.
And the US has done this with so many industries, which you are trying to monopolize or control.
And apparently you are okay when your own country is doing this but not okay when other countries are doing it.
Does this seem fair to you, because sure as hell doesn’t seem to me.
It’s not about fair. Anti dumping tariffs is designed to protect national security and national industries. We are not exclusive to this. China themselves does the same exact thing.
Can you then explain to me what is the difference between
US companies can operate at a loss to gain market share
And dumping as in my books both are synonyms.
And mind you we already have a couple of multi trillion companies now, if this isn’t access to infinite resources what is…
I mean we see their cheap shitty batteries catching on fire in bikes, hoverboards, phones, laptops… Can you imagine their cars going up in flames?
Yeah, that’s and that’s “reputable company” … Just wait until it’s RECOMBAXCKS or whatever hey will sell on amazing n.
Let me picture it… weird, it looks like a Tesla.
Because China bad, obviously
America numba one!
In oil production
literally this https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=709&t=6
They probably don’t meet US safety requirements?
Because GenocideJoe is a sore loser.
They title is reserved for Zionist genocidal maniacs like bibi
Because no country should allow a brutal dictatorship like China any control over any of their sectors.
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because US can’t compete with China
Yes Trump imposed the tariff but since Biden didn’t cancel it he gets the title of the article. What 🤡 shit.
Also as another commenter pointed out, these vehicles would never pass NHTSA standards anyway.
Correct, the person who has the power to change this right now gets in the title, because they have the power to change this right now and choose not to.
Same with every policy Bush/Obama/Trump admins implemented yet Biden maintains, from torture facilities in foreign countries to blowing up children in Yemen to increased restrictions of Cuba.
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Well he is a politician, so its fairly likely this is something politicial…
Biden has to lead an increase in charging infrastructure. By the time that was underway (and automakers made some realistic affordable EVs) I think things would change.
And trucks with clean diesel genny powered plug-in Hybrids.
I think the new Chinese made Volvo is one of the more interesting cars coming out this year. It’s $35k… AFTER the 27.5% tariff on Chinese made cars. Meaning, Volvo is actually selling this for $27k. The car is super minimal inside, but manufacturing in China is clearly allowing them to reduce costs a shit load.
US auto manufacturing would be so screwed if these things could be sold without the tariff.
Edit: also worth noting, they’re going to be leasing these direct in many states. No dealer markup.
US Auto manufacturers have screwed themselves and the US public with their current production values.
Happened in the 1970s, and Honda and Toyota ran wild. Unfortunately US automakers are more important, it seems, than those that bought their cars.
Because he’s a sinophobic little bitch 😤
