Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.), who has floated a presidential primary contest against President Biden, said Sunday people want to “turn the page” on the incumbent president when it comes to 2024.
Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.), who has floated a presidential primary contest against President Biden, said Sunday people want to “turn the page” on the incumbent president when it comes to 2024.
So we’ve got RFK jR running as a Republican with a D behind his name, and Manchin and now Phillips floating primary runs against Biden from his right.
It’s so nice watching centrists demonstrate that their commitment to protecting incumbents only applies when challengers come from the left.
tbh don’t we want this in our politics? i know it is ugly right now but post Biden what will the game look like?
i think the right burned itself up and splintered into factions and now the “left” (see center) are also splintering
the group i see as the most united and with the clearest platform are basically the social democrats. hopefully they play the game right and manage to really set up a stronger safety net for the poorest and give space for a middle class again
We do want this in our politics, but when we have fascists calling from inside the house, it’s a luxury we can’t afford right now.
Once fascism is no longer a viable political path for extremists, then we can talk about improving candidate quality and having better options. From where we are currently, though, it feels like putting the cart before the horse.
People have been telling any Democrat that isn’t a neoliberal “now isn’t the right time for what you want” for far longer than I’ve been able to vote and I’m 35. Well I say fuck that. Now is a perfectly fine time, people like you just want your guy to keep winning primaries.
I get your feeling, and I’m actually a little bit older than you (so have had to vote for the same boring centrists), but “fuck that” isn’t how you strategically defeat a coalition of rich, Conservative ideologues who have been slowly and tactfully eroding our democracy.
“People like me” haven’t had their candidate yet win a primary (I’m a progressive socialist), so I’m not sure who you’re referring to.
Fair enough, but again that’s the same kind of thing we’ve been hearing for decades. We heard it about Bernie in the last two elections even though he polled better than Clinton or Biden against Trump. At this point it doesn’t seem like sound advice so much as a means to convince people to vote for someone they don’t actually like based on a vague appeal to the greater good.
Welcome to first past the post voting, where nobody can take any risks for fear of handing the opposition a win by default. Nothing will get better until we overhaul our voting system. We desperately need multiple parties but it’s literally impossible to get there with first past the post.
I will vote for the person who wins the Democratic primaries. I don’t want Biden to run again. He is too old. BUT if he wins the primaries I will vote for him.
Republicans and the Christian Nationalist want to rule us from a minority. Voting may not matter anymore if they get in power. They are scared of young people voting and are looking for ways to stop it. Stop voting for Republicans, they don’t believe in our democracy.
Huh. I usually only hear this when progressives run for anything.
RFK Jr is his own thing but neither Manchin or Phillips are actually running. You can’t call people hypocrites for not doing something they think other people shouldn’t do.
Yet. Both are making noises about it. Since when do politicians openly consider a presidential run and then decide against it?