@asklemmy What do you think it would take for people to drop Twitter & Reddit and move to the Fediverse?
Have you seen Reddit and Twitter lately? You want those people here?
People who have been paying attention have already moved. Anyone who’s left will need a missile dropped directly on top of their head by Elon Musk or Steve Huffman personally. They will leave when the websites can no longer support themselves and shut down their servers, forcing the users out.
Yeah, tbh with all of what has happened on both of platforms, it’s sad to still see them alive.
Hopefully, people slowly start moving across or they’re some huge outage that happens in the future as it doesn’t seem like many more people are willing to move across (at least from my experience).
Who knows, Threads may help the future of the Fediverse with the amount of users that could see the possibility of it across Mastodon, Lemmy and many other instances.
User interface.
OK miss/calc/shark key has it but mastodon is pretty rough, and lemmy isn’t that nice. Yes I know for Lemmy Alexandrite is neater than the official app, but it’s already some power user level, same for instances having the photon and old front-end.Yeah, I guess I could see how the UI / UX could be a problem for some people. I’m sure it’s something that they will improve on overtime.
For a Lemmy Alternative, there’s Kbin what’s pretty visually pleasing but can be complex compared to Lemmy to learn.
Someone should make a comprehensive, easy to follow guide to Lemmy with the latest info and apps, and share it to Reddit including their r/lemmy. Same with Mastodon.
I’ve sworn off of Reddit unfortunately so I’m not going to post, but maybe if I make something I can ask someone to share it there for me?
Having a guide to the Fediverse (at least Mastodon & Lemmy) could bring the people who are looking for alternatives to possibly see it and read about how you can easily join, which is a really good idea.
It’d be cool if CGPGrey remade his “What is Reddit” video, but exchanged it for: “What is Lemmy”
He unlisted that video, so I don’t think he has that popular of an opinion of Reddit these days.
Celebrities like him joining would be a big help.
Yeah people like that would help greatly even if it’s just for the Reddit like experience they used to get where users can just post to you as a creator
For me it was a combination of seeing that there was a lot of activity on the fediverse (no point joining a social media if there’s no people on it) and also feeling the need to actually frequently use social media again, because I hadn’t been using social media for a while outside of retweeting something once in a blue moon.
We’re social creatures, so I’m sure the more people move to Fediverse, well, the more people will follow.
Twitter is a celebrities’ and public persons’ playground. As well as organisations. Anyone else is on there either to gain prominence or to follow the prominent accounts. Until there’s a suitable fediverse platform that appears as an advantage to those big names, nothing’s gonna change on that front. In spite of all the censorship and cancellations.
Would it be best for Bluesky to then take all the celebs & public figures and work out a bridge between protocols, making it hopefully possible to see their stuff on Mastodon and other places?
As users can then choose if they want to use Mastodon or another alternative like Bluesky.
I’m not familiar with Bluesky so I don’t know the answer to that. But I don’t think any entity can just ‘take all the celebs & public figures’. They are unlikely to move unless they think it’s an advantage to themselves or their organisation.
There’s plenty of Celebs & public figures using Bluesky, as that’s how they started growing their platform originally.
There’s also Threads that have more Celebs & public figures including Bill Gates. So I guess Threads might be the way they will publicly get in on the Fediverse. That’s when they actually fully flesh their ActivityPub stuff and publicly release it.
Ok. I’d be interested to know how Bluesky compares in size to Twitter.
As of last November 2 Million users. What compared to the rest of the Fediverse that’s very few.
https://mashable.com/article/bluesky-2-million-users-public-interface
I believe Twitter still has hundreds of millions monthly active users. That’s tough competition.
Yeah, well, at least it’s said to have that many active users but logging in once in a month to check 1 post. So less than 10 seconds on the website / app counts as active.
I’m sure it’s slightly inflated. Hopefully indie developers and other smaller public figures come across.
Banning all NSFW
Banning piracy discussion
The question asked about people, not advertisers.
I know people that use Reddit & Twitter purely for their NSFW content, So I don’t think taking away Fediverse NSFW content would work for those types of people.
More active niche communities and better search for old posts
I would love for more activity for niche communities
People are “lazy” and only social, today. They want to log in, info dump, and not think.
Before the nadir of social media, when reddit and twitter were coming up, the people online were predominantly young millennials and new tech was exciting. That was a time where netizens were more curious and accepting of online platform learning challenges. In fact, if it was beta or even just more hands on and generally nerdy, that often made the platform more appealing. Then everything became standardized. Mega social media squashed innovative smaller fun projects. Competition got absorbed. And with the mass standardization of the internet came the younger generations who came up just expecting shit to work as they’ve always seen. Streamlined and with an inclusion of 15 minutes of fame. But, in honesty the biggest snooze is the lack of innovation that drove the old internet drives today’s general malaise.
Times are different. People are bored with internet tech and are therefore less curious. My younget gen z and y co-workers glaze over if I even so much as mention irc or playing around with your own web server. Gen y understands but doesn’t care because Twitter and IG governed their highschool experience. Gen z doesn’t understand and are kinda boomer-esque in terms of any software comprehension. I’ve had to teach my interns what Excel even is.
Times are different. Everything has being standardized, monontonized, monitized, predictable, and generally boring. I think the fediverse would have to become mainstream to appeal to the mainstream. And today’s mainstream aren’t interested in new platform learning curves unless there’s something fun, compelling, and of entertainment value to them.
Just my old millennial lady take.
I’m in that demographic (born in the 90s), and my friends are definitely apathetic/uninterested in trying new platforms. I am trying to convince them of alternatives 🫡, wish me luck.
I’m gen z :[ ouch. To be fair though yeah, not that many gen z actually have digital literacy. I need to help my friends the same age as me with things boomers would also ask me for help with. It’s kind of sad having a very surface-level consumer relationship with the wonderful world of the internet and tech
Irc is probably a nice way to see how chatting was back in the 90s im a gen z and i think its quite fun to just load up a irc client then log on to random irc servers to have some fun
Gen z here, there are still nerds in our generation
Think part of what you’re seeing might be that previously when it was all new and niche the only people using these sites were nerds, nowadays everyone’s using it so by comparison it looks like there are less of us around
I hear Lemmy is very reminiscent of the old internet because it aggregates all the techies together like the internet in general used to
A faux front end that makes the fediverse appear centralised.
So Threads? That’s getting progress on coming to the Fediverse. Guess we would have lots more people join through that.
I’m not sure what threads is really. I’m not on Instagram. Gotta make it as simple as possible.
Threads is instagrams version of mastodon / twitter. Even know you can login with instagram it does bring it mainstream
More content. More diverse content. And more diverse users.
There really isn’t a lot of posts. A significant portion of posts are from bots. Similarly, there aren’t many comments.
It feels like most content is doomer news, politics, Linux, Star Trek, programming, or gaming related. And that’s my jam. But it gets old after a while.
And of course it would help to have more diverse users. I know we aren’t all the same, but Lemmy has a lot of software developers and left leaning folks with post secondary degrees.
Yeah, I get what you mean. It would be good to get more niche communities involved. It’s good to see like-minded people, but it’s always good for someone to have another opinion that can back up their views with facts.
The Fediverse if a complicated concept, that looses a lot of the appeal that Twitter/Reddit has, we need more coordination between instances, and less of a scattershot approach to communities. This obviously goes against the goals of the Fediverse where you want several similar communities on different instances to make the system far more robust.
Then we need a killer community, a community that people has to have, that only really work on Lemmy, and not on Reddit.
Mastodon mostly just needs more users, especially celeberties, then users would come.
I read something about ActivityPub 2.0 being pushed for more feedback from the developers of Instances talking, so hopefully that brings more talk and direction between instances.
Lemmy would be amazing if it had some unique communities that people have been looking for, for years on Reddit. It could be a way to get Lemmy to grow.
I know there is crossover between places like Mastodon and Lemmy as at the moment I’m using Mastodon to talk to everyone on Lemmy but certainly could be improved.
Lemmy overall feels like old reddit when it was still run and filled by people who cared. Names are familiar, everyone rather(in some places) chill, and the server is on fire half the time. I forgotten what it was like to start to know people online. Reddit is too big to ever learn a name again unless its a “human” on the front page again. It’s kinda nostalgic.
Yeah it would just be nice to have some more niche communities being run. Maybe I should help start those niche communities or something but I’m not really using Lemmy anymore but still love browsing the content
I didn’t even know Lemmy existed until last week (when I specifically searched for a Reddit alternative) even though I heard about Mastodon.
And it might be confusing to decide where you need to register and what’s the difference without reading up how the Fediverse works. Most people don’t care about that.
Also if they are based on the same technology why I can’t use a Mastodon account to login/interact with Lemmy (conveniently)
I guess if we ever have Nomadic identities most of the above could be solved? Except that Lemmy is still almost completely unknown for most of the people.
More diverse content and a better attitude to bringing on new people who would contribute to the community. I like it here but I do see a lot of slagging off the people still on Reddit, users of other social media sites, and even other instances. I am one of those people, I still use Instagram (I like to watch cat videos and people making weird music) and occasionally Twitter (for breaking news and storm chaser stuff), and sometimes it’s a little disparaging to read lots of comments saying people like me don’t belong here.
Where are the comments saying people like you don’t belong here? I’ve never seen those
It is entirely up to you; every set of eyes that reads this.
Every post, every community you participate within, every upvote, every positive interaction is helping this place grow. All we need to do is make a place people want to visit; add value to their and our own lives.
Yesterday I started Word of the Day !wotd@lemmy.world
I moderate !3dprinting@lemmy.world and a couple of others that are not active. I’m at 179 posts and 1485+1 comments. I’m here a few times at least on most days.
I try and post in as many other communities as I can and be as positive an influence as I can manage.
The best thing you can do is upvote and participate in absolutely every little niche you can possibly participate in. I’m a jack of all trades master of none, but I’ll even go outside of my comfort zone to try and support everything I can. I don’t just take from this place, I want to build it, to grow with it, to be a part of it. I am the fediverse. You are the fediverse. It is what you make of it.
I posted this when there were less than 5k active users on Lemmy and .world was a couple of weeks old: https://lemmy.world/post/36032
That post is still just as true today.
Thank you
Yes I’ll stay active in as many places as I can on here especially when I know a topic. Even better now I’ve worked out a way to interact with people on Lemmy through Mastodon
