We have hoverboards, and they don’t hover. We have jetpacks, but they run on water and need a hose. Our ray guns are only useful for blinding pilots. Our AI doesn’t even have a robot body, and it starts repeating itself with shocking speed. We pretty much gave up on going to space anymore, except for a Nazi who has a grudge against trans people because his daughter won’t speak to him.
Our engineering is disappointing because the rate of innovation is slowing down, and it’s slowing because all the low hanging fruit is already picked. It’s taking more and more resources to continue at the same speed of innovation. You can’t just have an apple hit your head and discover gravity anymore, innovations in theoretical physics require supercolliders and deep space telescopes.
The good news, though, is there’s plenty of low hanging fruit in psychonautics. So that’s the science I’m interested in. Unfortunately, y’all atheists don’t believe in magic so you’re missing out on a whole scientific field. You won’t mix science and religion, so you can’t innovate as much.
Psychonautics has existed as a known research field longer than the internet has been around, and there’s a strong argument to make that it’s fundamental, just like physics or math. Ancient Tibetan monks were doing psychonautics, and they laid the groundwork for modern parogenetic techniques.
I haven’t checked it out and I’d be open to review the evidence in its favor, the reason behind my comment was this:
Unfortunately, y’all atheists don’t believe in magic (…) You won’t mix science and religion, so you can’t innovate as much
By definition, if something is observed to behave according to logical laws, it is not supernatural, and therefore not magic. Religion by definition requires faith, and if you’re using faith specifically for your scientific endeavors, you’re doing science wrong.
Religion by definition requires faith, and if you’re using faith specifically for your scientific endeavors, you’re doing science wrong.
That’s categorically untrue. Science has conclusively demonstrated the existence of the placebo effect, which is powered by faith. People believe they will get better, even when evidence does not exist, even when they know they’re in an experiment with a control group, and they get better. That’s faith. Faith is such a huge factor that any pharmaceutical trial must control for it with a placebo control group. Scientists spend a great deal of time and money determining which medicines work because of faith, and which ones work because of chemistry.
The effects of faith upon our reality are scientifically quantifiable, predictable, and controllable. Faith is a tool in the scientist’s toolbelt, just like instruments, drugs, computers, or anything else. Psychonautics can essentially be viewed as the science of faith, and other such reality-altering mental constructs.
No it isn’t lol. You can tangibly observe, experiment, and interact with the placebo effect/pharmaceuticals. There is a literal method that is used to prove things like the placebo effect.
Faith (from the religious understanding) is for that which can’t be proven, thus antithetical to science. And before I hear something bogus like “faith in the method”: that method has proven itself millions of times over with physical tangible proof.
Hell if you Google the definition of faith the second one is literally “strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.”
On the religion side the last picture should be the same as the first.
Atheists be like “look at all the things my real and not made up methodology can do” and then post science fiction.
Today’s engineering is the past century’s science fiction.
We have hoverboards, and they don’t hover. We have jetpacks, but they run on water and need a hose. Our ray guns are only useful for blinding pilots. Our AI doesn’t even have a robot body, and it starts repeating itself with shocking speed. We pretty much gave up on going to space anymore, except for a Nazi who has a grudge against trans people because his daughter won’t speak to him.
Our engineering is disappointing because the rate of innovation is slowing down, and it’s slowing because all the low hanging fruit is already picked. It’s taking more and more resources to continue at the same speed of innovation. You can’t just have an apple hit your head and discover gravity anymore, innovations in theoretical physics require supercolliders and deep space telescopes.
The good news, though, is there’s plenty of low hanging fruit in psychonautics. So that’s the science I’m interested in. Unfortunately, y’all atheists don’t believe in magic so you’re missing out on a whole scientific field. You won’t mix science and religion, so you can’t innovate as much.
Thanks, you’ve just convinced me that internet was a mistake.
Psychonautics has existed as a known research field longer than the internet has been around, and there’s a strong argument to make that it’s fundamental, just like physics or math. Ancient Tibetan monks were doing psychonautics, and they laid the groundwork for modern parogenetic techniques.
I haven’t checked it out and I’d be open to review the evidence in its favor, the reason behind my comment was this:
By definition, if something is observed to behave according to logical laws, it is not supernatural, and therefore not magic. Religion by definition requires faith, and if you’re using faith specifically for your scientific endeavors, you’re doing science wrong.
That’s categorically untrue. Science has conclusively demonstrated the existence of the placebo effect, which is powered by faith. People believe they will get better, even when evidence does not exist, even when they know they’re in an experiment with a control group, and they get better. That’s faith. Faith is such a huge factor that any pharmaceutical trial must control for it with a placebo control group. Scientists spend a great deal of time and money determining which medicines work because of faith, and which ones work because of chemistry.
The effects of faith upon our reality are scientifically quantifiable, predictable, and controllable. Faith is a tool in the scientist’s toolbelt, just like instruments, drugs, computers, or anything else. Psychonautics can essentially be viewed as the science of faith, and other such reality-altering mental constructs.
I’m going to be charitable and assume that you’re describing faith as something that may be studied by science, which I have no issues with.
If you think faith is required at any point of the methodology of the scientific method, you should go back to middle school.
No it isn’t lol. You can tangibly observe, experiment, and interact with the placebo effect/pharmaceuticals. There is a literal method that is used to prove things like the placebo effect.
Faith (from the religious understanding) is for that which can’t be proven, thus antithetical to science. And before I hear something bogus like “faith in the method”: that method has proven itself millions of times over with physical tangible proof.
Hell if you Google the definition of faith the second one is literally “strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.”
That was the original. Evolution of the meme:
In retrospect I should’ve posted the second image, seems funnier.
Should have posted version 1’s science timeline with your own religion timeline