“To reduce global suffering” yes that’s the eco-fascism. Population control is the eugenics equivalent of austerity. You don’t get to tell anyone for any reason if they’re allowed to have children or not. That’s not your call, that’s not anyone else’s call but the parents’.
Not only is it deeply immoral, like all fascist pseudoscience, it also doesn’t work. Just ask China’s population control policy how that went.
The modern anti-natalist movement is about the personal choice to not have children, and occasionally being a counsel or advocate for others pondering their life choices. It has nothing to do with government, corporations, or national mythos.
The ecofascism that currently exists is manifest as jingoism against Chinese and Indian (out-group) climate change contributions, which does not take the form of anti-natalist language. It uses tribalist language, as fascism does. The reverse side of this ecofascism is domestic (in-group) anti-anti-natalism, such as Musk espouses. They demand the expendable laborers make more babies to weaken labor power, and decry childless individuals as degenerates.
I deal in the real world where shit has consequences.
You say as you stick your head in the sand. You can’t accept that the fascists duped you on this, can you? That you’re uncritically repeating their talking points?
It’s low-key ecofash.
Yeah, people in destructive developed nations voluntarily choosing to not have children in order to reduce future global suffering is totally fascist.
Real lebensborn stuff, right?
“To reduce global suffering” yes that’s the eco-fascism. Population control is the eugenics equivalent of austerity. You don’t get to tell anyone for any reason if they’re allowed to have children or not. That’s not your call, that’s not anyone else’s call but the parents’.
Not only is it deeply immoral, like all fascist pseudoscience, it also doesn’t work. Just ask China’s population control policy how that went.
The modern anti-natalist movement is about the personal choice to not have children, and occasionally being a counsel or advocate for others pondering their life choices. It has nothing to do with government, corporations, or national mythos.
The ecofascism that currently exists is manifest as jingoism against Chinese and Indian (out-group) climate change contributions, which does not take the form of anti-natalist language. It uses tribalist language, as fascism does. The reverse side of this ecofascism is domestic (in-group) anti-anti-natalism, such as Musk espouses. They demand the expendable laborers make more babies to weaken labor power, and decry childless individuals as degenerates.
My stance is unchanged. Anti-natalism is built on a foundation of population control, regardless of what it claims to be.
I’m not trying to deny that anti-natalism considers the material conditions of population numbers and resource constraints.
My only concern here is that you not reverse the meaning of fascism.
Fuck right off. Sorry your definition of fascism gets you and your friends off the hook. I deal in the real world where shit has consequences.
You say as you stick your head in the sand. You can’t accept that the fascists duped you on this, can you? That you’re uncritically repeating their talking points?
The absolute fucking irony, lmao
Obscene projection. How did you write that whole ass comment and never for a millisecond think “wait, i’m the one doing that”