• Norah - She/They@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 months ago

    Not in America, but I’m trans and have a number of trans friends in the states who are really scared right now. I live in Australia and have participated in pro-Palestine protests (if that’s who you’re implying with that). I loathe Biden, I think he’s a shitty old white dude, and I wish y’all could do better. But if protesting against Biden allows Trump to be elected, then there WILL be far worse consequences, both domestically and abroad. Thousands of trans people will lose their lives, and countless more will lose access to life-saving care. He will likely cut off support to Ukraine considering how he’s ingratiated himself to Putin. He hasn’t indicated he’d stop supporting Israel either.

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      8 months ago

      But if protesting against Biden allows Trump to be elected, then there WILL be far worse consequences

      That’s 100% on Biden for being a legit protest target, not on the individuals with a moral compass who are pointing out his issues.

      If we don’t want our non-fascist option to be protested against because it means they lose then there should be a better choice available

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        8 months ago

        Well too bad. This is what we got. Either join the rest of us in reality or become yet another person helping fascists seize power.

      • Norah - She/They@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        8 months ago

        I’m sorry, but I genuinely think that’s reductive and stupid. In Australia, I get to have a choice. And every time I’ve voted, I exercised that choice to put someone other than our Democrats first on my ballot. Knowing my vote would still flow to them before electing someone who would rather see me dead. You don’t get to have that choice, and you can blame your founding father’s and the various people in control of your government since for that fact. But if you choose not to vote because Biden isn’t good enough, you are making a conscious choice towards fascism.

        God. I called it in June 2016 and I’m calling it again now. Y’all are going to end up with Trump again because of people like you. And it’s going to fucking suck to be an Aussie online again for four years. Probably bloody longer.

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          8 months ago

          you are making a conscious choice towards fascism.

          It’s fun to watch people write paragraphs of shit acting like they’ve got a point and then say something this objectively stupid because they don’t actually know what they’re on about.

          I live in California, if I chose to not vote I’m making a conscious choice to support Biden, as that is who my states electoral votes are going to. If I chose to vote for any third party it’s the same outcome. Only if I explicitly vote for Trump (or another potential fascist) am I actually supporting fascism

          But what if too many of you Californians think that and Biden loses?!

          I can assure you that’s not happening here, though I’ve seen so many people online try to fear monger that it might. If t actually were a threat I’d get in lock-step for Biden to prevent fascism, but it’s not so I won’t.

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            8 months ago

            if enough Californians opposed genocide to make it so that Biden didn’t get the California electoral votes, imagine the impact. seriously. it would be unprecedented.